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To: ebshumidors

how about this

my Italians grandparents who came over late in life were more patriotic than 99 percent of the under 35 crowd now and I would have a man who got here at 20 and loved the country be president than the spoiled garbage we have in this country now.

outdated and backwards law.

because we KNOW how much the under 35 white college people who probably go back six generations LOVE this country.

I live in NYC. It’s about as foreign a land as any other compared to the rest of the country.

you will Lie, you will Cheat, and you will Steal, among other things, to get ahead. At least in the financial world

or you will fail.

I hope trump isn’t applying that to his run for office.


11 posted on 02/26/2016 11:06:18 PM PST by dp0622
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To: dp0622

What about if your grandparents didn’t assimilate like the current immigrants?


45 posted on 02/27/2016 12:53:35 AM PST by ebshumidors
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To: dp0622

**because we KNOW how much the under 35 white college people who probably go back six generations LOVE this country.**

I disagree that NBC is an outdated rule. Our heritage and way of life is different than just about anyplace else. Our constitution is unique and worth preserving from outside influence or agents, and sooner or later those 35yo’ds will become grandparents and legacy will become more important.

Here’s what the State Department has said about dual citizenship:

The state department has discouraged dual citizenship with a warning that “ dual citizenship can present a security issue whether to permit access to classified information which affects recruitment, employment and assignments.”
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-dual-citizenship-20141228-story.htmlepartment positions.

security issues and disqualification from sensitive positions -— I’d say the presidency is a pretty sensitive position

Is Rubio a NBC? Here’s what the co-author of the 14th amendment wrote:

“Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. ——This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners,——— aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.


54 posted on 02/27/2016 1:46:59 AM PST by blueplum
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To: dp0622

“my Italians grandparents who came over late in life were more patriotic than 99 percent of the under 35 crowd now and I would have a man who got here at 20 and loved the country be president than the spoiled garbage we have in this country now.”

Lafayette was more of an American Patriot than countless U.S. citizens during the American Revolutionary War and the centuries since that war, yet he wisely understood the honorary U.S. citizenship granted to him and his ancestors would very wisely not entitle any of them to become a President of the United States. This denial of U.S. citizenship and denial of eligibility were a means of protecting and defending the safety of the U.S. citizens and their Constitutional rights against foreign intrigues. The privileges of joining and being adopted into the U.S. society are supposed to be ample recompense for the disability of serving in only two of the offices of the U.S. Government. This restriction limited to just the two highest executive offices was in itself a revolutionary change in the centuries old policy of denying virtually all government offices to the children born abroad with a citizen father.

“outdated and backwards law.”

The Barack Hussein Obama Administration and the Chester Arthur Administration serve as ample proof there is nothing outdated or backwards about the centuries old policy of denying government offices to the foreign born.

“because we KNOW how much the under 35 white college people who probably go back six generations LOVE this country.”

If you don’t like it, you could always propose a Constitutional Amendment which would limit their nationality to non-voting U.S. nationals instead of being full U.S. citizens with a right to vote and hold government offices.

“I live in NYC. It’s about as foreign a land as any other compared to the rest of the country.”

Then you haven’t spent any time in East St. Louis, East L.A., and an assortment of other locales which make New York City appear to be absolutely mundane.

“you will Lie, you will Cheat, and you will Steal, among other things, to get ahead. At least in the financial world”

“or you will fail.”

Wrong. That is the typical world view of people who lie, cheat, steal, and then wrongly assume everyone else must be doing so too.

“I hope trump isn’t applying that to his run for office.”

Your viewpoint only attracts attention to the fact people who lie, cheat, steal, then wrongly assume everyone else must be doing so too.


58 posted on 02/27/2016 3:21:58 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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