Hoefling vs. Trump?

TomHoefling.com ^ | February 8, 2016 | Tom Hoefling

[EternalVigilance]

Should find out today if the California Secretary of State is going to place my name on the presidential primary ballot of the American Independent Party which will be conducted on June 7th.

We'll also find out if they also placed Donald Trump's name there as well. He'll likely be on the Republican ballot line in their closed primary, but the AIP offered his name up as well for their non-binding open primary, in which Independents will be able to vote.

California law allows candidates to appear on multiple party ballot lines. Once again, though, the actual nominee of the AIP will be chosen at their July state convention. So the June 7 primary is really nothing more than a beauty contest. Could be interesting, nonetheless.

[EternalVigilance]

I'll post the information here when I get word about this.

[Lagmeister]

Is this being done to confuse voters? Can Trump stop this... whazzup?

[smoothsailing]

Good Luck, EV!

[Lagmeister]

Is this being done to confuse voters? Can Trump stop this... whazzup?

[EternalVigilance]

No. Trump agreed to it. This gives him the opportunity to point to all of the Independent votes he got in addition to the Republican votes he received in their closed primary. They won’t count in his actual totals in the GOP primary race, but he would have nonetheless been a fool not to do it.

[EternalVigilance]

Thanks!

[who_would_fardels_bear]

I think it's better in some cases for third parties to support the lesser evil of one of the main parties than to put forth their own unknown candidates.

The Green Party, for example, should be supporting Bernie.

I believe the Conservative Party of New York will often support the Republican candidate if he is sufficiently conservative rather than putting up their own candidate.

[EternalVigilance]

If you keep supporting the lesser of two evils, don’t complain any more about how quickly the country is going to hell in a handbasket. When and how does the compromise stop, anyhow?

[EternalVigilance]

By the way, I’m pretty certain that the Conservative Party of New York will not support Senator Ted Cruz if he’s the GOP nominee.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

I'm still waking up. What I should have said is if either half of the Uniparty accidentally nominates a decent candidate, then it is a better long term strategy for a Third Party to support that candidate than to put up their own unknown candidate.

That way they might have a chance to have a seat at the table if voters from their party help swing a state in the direction of that candidate.

If the GOP nominates Cruz or Trump, then I think those would be acceptable candidates to the Constitution Party or American Independent Party or whatever they are calling themselves this year.

I voted for that lawyer guy one year instead of Bush, and I'm glad the Constitution Party didn't support Bush, but I could have seen them supporting Santorum in opposition to Romney.

[EternalVigilance]

I seriously doubt that the Constitution Party would ever support Trump or Cruz.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

I doubt it either. Because they would rather remain pure and languish in obscurity.

[EternalVigilance]

Yeah. Too much purity is really destroying this country, ain’t it?

/s

[who_would_fardels_bear]

It's one thing to vote for total sell outs like McCain or Romney. It's another thing entirely to support Cruz or Trump that have a lot of things right.

Yes Cruz is an H1b supporter and Trump is bad on the social issues, but unless they are moles for the GOPe they should be good on immigration, business regulation, national sovereignty, and a few other things close to the hearts of rightwing nutjobs such as myself.

[who_would_fardels_bear]

OK. I see you're one of the absolute purists. The split between the Constitution Party and the American Independent / America's Party is a disgrace.

This is like when Protestant sects split into ever smaller and smaller sects over theological minutiae.

I lost respect for Alan Keyes because of the split. It seems as if it's more about personalities than winning elections or even getting enough votes to get a write-up in a newspaper.

What issue was so important that the Constitution Party and America's Party couldn't agree to disagree on it?

[EternalVigilance]

Foreign policy and national defense.

Petty substantial stuff.

[EternalVigilance]

The final cut is now posted:

http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov//statewide-elections/2016-primary/2016-generally-recognized-presidential-candidates.pdf

Generally Recognized Presidential Candidates
June 7, 2016, Presidential Primary Election

Democratic Party

Hillary Clinton
Roque De La Fuente
Henry Hewes
Keith Judd
Bernie Sanders
Michael Steinberg
Willie Wilson

Republican Party

Jeb Bush
Ben Carson
Chris Christie
Ted Cruz
Carly Fiorina
Jim Gilmore
John Kasich
Marco Rubio
Donald Trump

American Independent Party

Wiley Drake
Arthur Harris
James Hedges
Tom Hoefling
J.R. Myers
Robert Ornelas
Alan Spears

Green Party

Darryl Cherney
Sedinam Moyowasifsa-Curry
William Kreml
Kent Mesplay
Jill Stein

Libertarian Party

Marc Feldman
John Hale
Cecil Ince
Gary Johnson
Steve Kerbel
John McAfee
Darryl Perry
Austin Petersen
Derrick M. Reid
Jack Robinson, Jr.
Rhett Smith
Joy Waymire

Peace and Freedom Party

Gloria Estela La Riva
Lynn Sandra Kahn
Monica Moorehead

[smoothsailing]

Congratulations! I wish you well.

[EternalVigilance]

Thanks again!

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