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How is Trump.2016 any more conservative than Romney.2012? [vanity]
Jan 27, 2016

Posted on 01/27/2016 7:42:47 AM PST by ConservingFreedom

In 2012, Mitt Romney ran on a solidly conservative platform and rhetoric, just as Trump is doing now. Yet most (IMO) FReepers agreed with Jim Robinson in vigorously opposing Romney during the primaries and supporting him, if at all, only with nose firmly held in the general election. Why? Because Romney had a record, and it was on far too many matters a liberal record. Well, Trump's many liberal public statements are at least as fresh as Romney's were ... and in some cases are ongoing (cf. "Donald Trump a Typical New York City Liberal Then and Now" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3385906/posts).

How is Trump.2016 any more conservative than Romney.2012?

(NOTE: Replies about Cruz, Reagan, or anyone other than Trump and/or Romney will be implicit admissions that Trump.2016 is no more conservative than was Romney.2012.)


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To: buwaya
He isn’t.

Thanks for the straightforward reply.

21 posted on 01/27/2016 8:28:09 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The difference between Donald Trump and Milt Romley is that Milt Romley is far too much of a gentleman to have strongly held principles that he is willing to fight for.

Nonresponsive in the absence of evidence that Trump has strongly held principles that he is willing to fight for.

22 posted on 01/27/2016 8:29:38 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: LostPassword
I'm for Trump and I'll admit he's not more conservative than Romney.

Thanks for the straightforward reply.

23 posted on 01/27/2016 8:30:44 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Other than defeating conservatives, what strongly held principles does Milt Romley have?


24 posted on 01/27/2016 8:31:28 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The goal of socialism is communism... Hatred is the basis of communism" --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: ConservingFreedom
Trump hasn't been part of the eGOP "scene" in DC and those that have spent their entire lives climbing the social ladder in the eGOP are scared they won't retain their positions if Trump wins. Period. THAT is why they oppose Trump.

"Don't look now, but while our best conservative is running a political campaign, Trump is leading a rebellion. Not as a liberal or a conservative politician, but as a successful red-blooded, can-do American capitalist.", Jim Robinson


25 posted on 01/27/2016 8:31:45 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: FreedomStar3028

Yeah, it’s not a matter of how conservative the 2016 candidate is.

It’s a matter of will the candidate fight and stop the left from destroying the country.


26 posted on 01/27/2016 8:32:36 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The difference between Donald Trump and Milt Romley is that Milt Romley is far too much of a gentleman to have strongly held principles that he is willing to fight for.

Nonresponsive in the absence of evidence that Trump has strongly held principles that he is willing to fight for.

Other than defeating conservatives, what strongly held principles does Milt Romley have?

Where did I say he did? Is your answer to the title question, "Romney.2013 was no better than Trump.2016"?

27 posted on 01/27/2016 8:33:48 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: ConservingFreedom

28 posted on 01/27/2016 8:34:27 AM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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To: Kaisersrsic

You’ll put your eye out.


29 posted on 01/27/2016 8:35:06 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
Yeah, it's not a matter of how conservative the 2016 candidate is.

So is your answer to that question, "Trump.2016 is no more conservative than was Romney.2012"?

It's a matter of will the candidate fight and stop the left from destroying the country.

Why would a nonconservative fight the left?

30 posted on 01/27/2016 8:36:04 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: Slyfox
"Trump's many liberal public statements are at least as fresh as Romney's were ... and in some cases are ongoing (cf. "Donald Trump a Typical New York City Liberal Then and Now" - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3385906/posts)."
31 posted on 01/27/2016 8:36:59 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: CodeToad
Trump hasn't been part of the eGOP "scene" in DC

Nor had Romney ever held office in DC. Still no difference.

32 posted on 01/27/2016 8:38:15 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: MrB

That’s exactly what it is.


33 posted on 01/27/2016 8:39:09 AM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

If the only thing Trump does is build the wall and stop the illegal alien inundation, that will be enough for me.

Once The Great Wall of Trump is built, the following issues will begin to be resolved:

Jobs

Better wages for us.

Medicaid

Emergency Services

Crime

Anchor babies

Social Security

Overcrowded schools

Less traffic congestion

Fewer auto accidents

Reduced drug running

More room in our jails and prisons

Fewer new diseases.

No more need of “Press 1 for English”


34 posted on 01/27/2016 8:44:33 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: dfwgator

RE:”Oh, Romney did fight for something, to make sure a conservative was not the GOP nominee, he fought like Hell against the other Republicans”

Thank goodness we are not in that situation now.


35 posted on 01/27/2016 8:47:08 AM PST by sickoflibs (Donald Trump : 'It will be wonderful. It will be glorious., You will be amazed, Just wait')
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To: ConservingFreedom

Trump is solidly against illegal immigration and excessive legal immigration, an issue that represents an existential threat the the United States. Moreover, Trump is a fighter and has a record of accomplishing large projects, traits that distinguish him from many conservatives in Washington.


36 posted on 01/27/2016 8:52:47 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: ConservingFreedom

Mitt was a wussie bitch
Trump is at least a man
Oh yeah and the Kenyan is a fag


37 posted on 01/27/2016 9:02:01 AM PST by Joe Boucher (Rubio is a liar, Jeb is worthless, Go Cruz ,Keep stirring the pot Donald.)
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To: Helicondelta

So how does your little chart look if you look at his views PRIOR to last week?


38 posted on 01/27/2016 9:05:17 AM PST by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
If the only thing Trump does is

Nonresponsive.

39 posted on 01/27/2016 9:18:46 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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To: Rockingham
Trump is solidly against illegal immigration

As was Romney.2012.

and excessive legal immigration,

Granted, I don't recall Romney.2012 taking a position on that. I do recall this: 'Romney's solution of "self deportation" for illegal aliens made no sense and suggested that Republicans do not care about Hispanics in general, Trump says [in an interview with Newsmax]. "He had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal," Trump says.' - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3310076/posts

Trump is a fighter and has a record of accomplishing large projects

Which doesn't necessarily make him a conservative, much less more conservative than Romney.2012.

40 posted on 01/27/2016 9:23:29 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (a "guest worker" is a stateless person with no ties to any community, only to his paymaster)
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