Ineligible for the Office of President

Coach is Right ^ | 1/21/16 | Evalyn Bennett

[Oldpuppymax]

It is critical for U.S. citizens to understand the meaning of the Constitution’s term “natural born citizen” when choosing a prospective Commander-in-Chief. The candidate must be free from all possibility of foreign loyalties through either his or her parentage or place of birth.

Why is the adoption of a narrow interpretation of “natural born citizen” essential to the future of our nation?

If it is sufficient for a person to have only one U.S. citizen parent in order to be considered a “natural born” citizen, then dual citizens could become President, including dual citizens of countries hostile to the United States.

Likewise, if the Constitution allows persons born outside the U.S. with only one U.S. citizen parent to qualify as President, then many persons could be dual citizens of their country of birth. This is Ted Cruz’s situation. Such persons could have divided loyalties to their place of birth or to the non-citizen parent’s country of origin.

If it is enough for a person to qualify by being a “birthright” citizen who was born on U.S. soil to parents who are not U.S. citizens (Marco Rubio’s situation), what if communist or radical Islamic nations use this as a strategy to infiltrate? Over a period of years, they could send refugees, students or professors to the U.S. to carry out their plan. Consider the possibility that one of those immigrants might have a “birthright” child, posing as pro-American until the time is ripe to seek the Presidency? The only way to stop such infiltration is a strict interpretation of the phrase “natural born citizen” which denies “natural born” status to children who are born in the U.S. to non-citizen parents.

The key phrase to properly interpret the 14th Amendment is this: “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” Foreigners and their children...

[Bidimus1]

i dont know what he coached.. but I bet he never understood the infield fly rule.. ;)

[skeeter]

lol

[justlittleoleme]

[Behind the Blue Wall]

This author is foolishly conflating the anchor baby issue with the natural born citizenship issue, probably to the detriment of both. Anchor babies (i.e. a child born on U.S. soils to aliens) should not be granted U.S. citizenship of any kind, so the issue with natural born citizenship would be moot to them. If they at some later point are able to become U.S. citizens through the naturalization process, again that doesn’t confer natural born citizenship on them.

[libbylu]

... i dont know what he coached.. but I bet he never understood the infield fly rule.. ;)
LOL. Another trumpee repeating his lies.

[Jack Black]

Using your logic, which says that “dual citizens can not become citizens” then no Jewish person can be President because all Jewish people have citizenship in Israel by virtue of being Jewish. (I use this example because I am familiar with it, there may be other countries that extend automatic citizenship to children of citizens born abroad, as indeed the USA does)

My good friend who immigrated there at age 20 tells me that she did not have to apply for citizenship, merely to document that she was Jewish and claim her right to return.

[DannyTN]

The issue will be dead when Cruz and Rubio drops out, or we get a federal court ruling on what the constitution eligibility requirements mean.

[Vaquero]

Or when’s balk has occured

[kiltie65]

This does need to be addressed. I am a naturalized citizen and love the U.S. wholeheartedly, and I have been here since I was 12 and I am a citizen of the U.S. since 1957. I am now in my mid 70’s BUT still, if anyone brings up my homeland (Scotland) in a negative way, I fall on them like a ton of bricks. I attest to the fact that we all hold loyalties to our homeland, and I firmly believe that naturalized citizens, born in another country, should never be able to run for President of the United States because, like in my case, we hold some loyalty to the country where we were born in our hearts.

[grania]

or when we get a federal court ruling,,,,

It was Cruz that advocated to GWB that his friend John Robert be appointed to the SC. How would that work out?

[Yosemitest]

I started AGAIN to verify AGAIN the CURRENT LAW at U.S. Citizenship And Immigration Service, and went through their references to IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY ACT, which took me to the Citizenship Through Parents page, which read:

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In a general, a Child Born Outside the U.S. is a Citizen at Birth when the Child’s Parents Are Married to each other at the Time of Birth IF...	AND...
Both parents are U.S. citizens at the time of birth,	At least one parent lived in the U.S. or its territories prior to the birth.
One parent is a U.S. citizen at the time of birth and the birthdate is on or after November 14, 1986	The U.S. citizen parent had been physically present in the U.S. or its territories for a period of at least five years at some time in his or her life prior to the birth, of which at least two years were after his or her 14th birthday. If the U.S. citizen parent spent time abroad in any of the following three capacities, this can also be counted towards the physical presence requirement: Serving honorably in the U.S. armed forces; Employed with the U.S. government; or Employed with certain international organizations. Additionally, time spent abroad by the U.S. citizen parent while the U.S. citizen parent was the unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person who meets any of the three conditions listed above can also be counted.

Then I went to verify AGAIN the CURRENT LAW at U.S. Citizenship And Immigration Service, and went through their references to INA: ACT 301 - NATIONALS AND CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES AT BIRTH.
Their wording is:

Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following SHALL BE nationals and CITIZENS of the United States at birth:
... (g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions
of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States
who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years,
at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years:
Provided,
That any periods of honorable service in
the Armed Forces of the United States,
or periods of employment with the United States Government
or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669; 22 U.S.C. 288)
by such citizen parent,
or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad
as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States,
or (B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act,
may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph.
This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952,
to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and

(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States
of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States
who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

Then I researched U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8 and at the bottom of that page is

""Notes for this section:
Citizenship

Which took me to that link.
That takes you to

Constitutional Topic: Citizenship

... Citizenship is mentioned in
Article 1, Section 2,
Article 1, Section 3,
Article 1, Section 8,
Article 2, Section 1,
and in the 14th Amendment
and several subsequent amendments.

If you're going to be involved in government in the United States, citizenship is a must.
To be a Senator or Representative, you must be a citizen of the United States.
To be President, not only must you be a citizen, but you must also be natural-born.
Aside from participation in government, citizenship is an honor bestowed upon people by the citizenry of the United States when a non-citizen passes the required tests and submits to an oath.

Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen?
Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States,
and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
But even this does not get specific enough.
As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.
The Constitution authorizes the Congress to create clarifying legislation in
Section 5 of the 14th Amendment;
the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4,
also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization,

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution.
Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"


• Anyone born inside the United States *
  * There is an exception in the law - - the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States.
  This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.
• Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
  
• Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
  
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
  
• Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
  
• Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
  
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
  
• A final, historical condition:
  a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President.
These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, ....


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[Vaquero]

The subject is dead to you.....but the Dhimmicrats will tie it up in the courts if Cruz is the choice.

[Brian Griffin]

Naturalization makes someone a citizen who is not a natural-born citizen.

Cruz never had to be naturalized. His birth from an American mother made him a citizen, naturally, by birth.

Even if Obama was born in Kenya, Obama would be considered a natural-born American citizen.

[DannyTN]

A federal ruling might not make it to SCOTUS. And if it does, there are 9 justices. John Roberts could excuse himself, allow Cruz’s past support of him to influence his ruling or not. Who knows.

But right now, we keep getting people who aren’t eligible running for President. And we probably have someone sitting in the oval office that is not eligible.

[lacrew]

If it is sufficient for a person to have only one U.S. citizen parent in order to be considered a natural born citizen.

Been there, done that.

[Vaquero]

Roberts either is a closeted gay or committed a crime adopting his Irish kids. Either way the Dhimmicrats have the info and has already used it against him with Obamacare.

[Proud2BeRight]

And after Cruz and Rubio drop out we will be assured of getting a proven liberal as President again and all will be well.

[Jim Noble]

all Jewish people have citizenship in Israel by virtue of being Jewish

That's not exactly true.

American Jews are not citizens of Israel (they can't vote or hold office, for example).

They can CLAIM citizenship by right, I believe they must do this on Israeli soil. A lot of them have, but most have not.

[DiogenesLamp]

This author is foolishly conflating the anchor baby issue with the natural born citizenship issue, probably to the detriment of both. Anchor babies (i.e. a child born on U.S. soils to aliens) should not be granted U.S. citizenship of any kind, so the issue with natural born citizenship would be moot to them. If they at some later point are able to become U.S. citizens through the naturalization process, again that doesn’t confer natural born citizenship on them.

The two issues are intimately related. It is impossible to separate the issue of "anchor baby" from that of "natural born citizen." The difference between the two is the entire point of the debate regarding Obama.

Obama is a 14th amendment citizen, meaning without the 14th amendment, he wouldn't be a citizen at all.

That is exactly what "anchor babies" are.