Desperate, Dishonest Donald Trump Goes Birther on Ted Cruz

PJ Media ^ | 06-01-2016 | Michael van der Galien

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

First off, I like the way Cruz handled it yesterday, a great ‘jump the shark’ moment.

Part of my intention yesterday is to emphasize the dangerous power those oligarchs-in-robes have. Not all of them abuse their power, but too many do every year.

“You say we cannot trust the federal courts ...”

Do you trust them?

“... yet your suggestion means that the courts would make a ruling ...”

Ruling? Did I say they make a ruling? Trump apparently did, but not me. I said Cruz needs written assurance.

“based on facts or arguments they have not yet heard”

Did I say they should make a promise without studying the matter first?

My goodness. I’m far from perfect, but honestly ... how stupid do you think I am?

When you are in a nation ruled by oligarchs, I believe it is entirely reasonable to get as many assurances as possible from them for important matters.

Would it force them to recuse themselves? Why? Their court precedents have driven a truck through artificial commerce clause loopholes. Under the Commerce Clause, they could do anything they darn well want and not recuse themselves.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

‘But Republicans have controlled the HOR for over two years now. So why haven’t they done it? Why didn’t Cruz encourage it?’

As I understand it, once the eligibilty form is signed, proecedure decrees it final — ‘speak now or forever hold your peace’.

We lost the debate about Obama. It was ‘finito’. FRiends have had so much success recently that they forget how many debates we have lost to the Establishment year-after-year. Our outrages buried for decades.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Coulter: Cruz is not a natural born citizen
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3380362/posts

Her tweet:

NYT: Cruz was born outside the U.S. to 1 American parent: ‘Under the Constitution this makes him a ‘natural born citizen.’ Absolutely false [unquote]

And Coulter was a clerk to the supreme court.

But this runs way against the grain. Modern law establishes that only one parent is needed. Not that I agree that Obama or a royal bastard of England should qualify, but Cruz should be respected at least as much as Obama was.

[jpsb]

"He said he did not know he had dual Canadian citizenship.

Cruz is a very good lawyer, it is not possible that Cruz did not know he was a Canadian citizen. Why are all records of Cruzs' citizenship sealed in both Canada and the USA?

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/cruz-birther-issue-obama-all-over-again/

[grania]

I always thought the birthers hung their hats on the most dubious part of the issue, where Obama was born. One factor is that mom was a minor at his birth, and "dad" was not. So I'd think that made Obama Kenyan. Another factor is that he probably applied to college and got scholarships as an Indonesian citizen. Did he ever renounce his Indonesian citizenship that replaced his British Commonwealth citizenship? But then again there's the "who's your daddy" issue. If that Kenyan dude he calls daddy was still married, that would make Obama with just one parent, mom, so probably a citizen born in Hawaii.

What's my point? Because of all that uniquesness, the issue isn't settled and there isn't precedent'. The 'pubs have been very sloppy about not getting a definition of natural born citizen since then. The way this is going down the slippery slope, there won't be ANY restrictions on who can be President!

Again, Trump is correct. He does have to be colorful and provocative. It's the only way peole take notice of these very important issues he brings up.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

‘Did he ever renounce his Indonesian citizenship that replaced his British Commonwealth citizenship?’

Right. Lots of nagging questions. Like where is his VISA?

As to the confusion ...

The ‘G’ OP doesn’t think they have any say about eligibility. They defer to the Ivy Leagues and shrug their shoulders.

[Duchess47]

There are millions of people in this country like me. We are old enough that we received a decent education, we were taught in high school the constitution, the construction of the American government, the rights and responsibilities of an American citizen.

We were taught that a natural born citizen is a citizen born in the United States of two citizen parents. We are and were not political junkies, just went about our lives, working and raising our children. When Obama ran we said, whoa - this guy is not a NBC. We were and are ridiculed because of our beliefs.

Now, eight years later, we have seen just how badly that went. Does anyone think that we will get up and vote for yet another person who we do not consider a NBC? Already the few of us that are commenting are being called birthers again.

The media 24/7 and boards like this delight in calling us low information voters. Well, I can about guarantee that if the Republican candidate isn’t a natural born citizen we will stay home, vote down ticket only or vote third party. Because one of the things drilled into us growing up was the responsibilities of being an American citizen.