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Could terrorists in America; Muslim refugees/immigrants; Islamic provocateurs; the provocateurs instigating Black Lives Matter; drug cartels; gangs; progressive/liberal militants; and others knowingly (or unknowingly) work enough chaos in America for the President to willingly declare martial law and suspend the 2016 elections? Could he use the Federal civilian armed agents instead of the US Military to do the similar? Perhaps, Jade Helm 15 was mainly to pre- position hardware?

Like Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals: RULE 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have. RULE 9: “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.” RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.” Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

1 posted on 12/17/2015 3:16:24 PM PST by SetFree
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Never mind that Abe Lincoln fought a massive Civil War, but maintained elections - odumbo is NOT Lincoln. Of course he could.


2 posted on 12/17/2015 3:17:59 PM PST by dware (Free Survival & Prepper Ebooks: http://www.survivetherockies.com)
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I’ve been screaming about this since his very first blatantly unconstitutional and illegal acts.

If he doesn’t follow the law now, why would he suddenly do it in January 2017?


3 posted on 12/17/2015 3:20:10 PM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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Obama suspend the elections? No....he's not quite that stupid. That's what libs said BushII was going to do in 2004.

No president, not even a dope like King Barack, would be that dumb. It would mean civil war. Carson is off base with that remark.

4 posted on 12/17/2015 3:21:03 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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If Obama were to suspend the Constitution, wouldn't that eliminate his office?
5 posted on 12/17/2015 3:21:40 PM PST by snarkpup (The "Plague Syndrome": Immigrants fleeing their own culture who end up spreading it around.)
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It will never happen. This is tin foil hat talk and I am sort of amazed that Carson, as educated as he is, would go down that rabbit hole. Then again, he has said some goofy stuff in the past.


7 posted on 12/17/2015 3:22:13 PM PST by Snark
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The more important question is, can The People use the Second Amendment if he does?


8 posted on 12/17/2015 3:23:17 PM PST by IronJack
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http://www.nbc29.com/story/30780272/controversial-assignment-reactions-prompt-augusta-co-schools-to-close


9 posted on 12/17/2015 3:23:49 PM PST by biggredd1
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I’ve heard this crap from people in the party out of power every election since 1972, when a lot of McGovern people thought Nixon would declare martial law. Not going to happen.


17 posted on 12/17/2015 3:30:01 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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But something is different this time around —

Obviously the Democrats would like to keep Obama in beyond his allotted time.
And this time, the GOP (the *cough* “opposition party”) would love to find a way to keep Trump out of the White House.

Bottomline: if both major political parties want the election to be suspended, I think it will be suspended. No Civil War would erupt because there would not be two sides to that argument.

But perhaps grassroots rebellion would be likely.


21 posted on 12/17/2015 3:36:13 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I support anything which diminishes the Muslim population.)
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funny that ben carson should bring this up...

bambi has two choices
he can leave or he can leave

that is all.
30 posted on 12/17/2015 3:54:04 PM PST by novemberslady
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Carson is right.

All it would take is a big enough crisis for Obama to declare martial law. Once he does and has had time to implement his order, it would be simple for him to “postpone” the election.

Obama has already given himself ample authority to do everything that would be needed to implement this. He has even built the “domestic army” he talked about prior to his first election (even the NOAA has it’s own SWAT teams now). Obama has poisoned race relations, and primed his “gimmee dat” army to help make sure he gains and keeps control.

The military would NOT stop him. He has already purged the military of those leaders who would be most likely to oppose him.

All Obama needs is the crisis.

Manufacturing a crisis is child’s play. Despots have done so throughout human history.

Those who think “it could never happen here” are living in fantasy land. There is nothing whatsoever to keep Obama from trying and he has put all the pieces in place to do so. So why wouldn’t he?

It’s really easy:
1. Build a support base that will back you.
Done.
2. Purge military leaders who might oppose you.
Done.
3. Manufacture a crisis.
Easy to do.
4. Declare martial law.
All needed authority is in place.
5. Postpone the election.
Child’s play once step 4 is in place.

Voila! President for life! If you’re Obama, what’s not to like?

You say you wouldn’t stand for it? With Homeland “Security” and the NSA’s surveillance technology, finding and disappearing opposition leaders would be child’s play. Absent organization and leadership, what are YOU going to be able to do about it?

Scattered opposition is almost certain, but he could deal with that easily.

If you think this is far fetched you simply have not studied history. Despots have followed this basic approach over and over and over (the Reichstag fire set by Hitler in 1933, for example). It works.

The only difference is that now the technology to suppress opposition is better.


31 posted on 12/17/2015 3:54:24 PM PST by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
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My view is Obama wouldn’t keep at the helm in 2017. He will be extremely powerful and his minions will still be in power but he will not be seen. He knows how bad things are going to get. He knows Iran will be testing nukes soon. He knows we are throttling to a true world war. He does not want his name on any of it. One thing Obama’s massive ego will not allow is responsibility for anything bad.


37 posted on 12/17/2015 3:58:30 PM PST by Organic Panic
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Could terrorists in America; Muslim refugees/immigrants; Islamic provocateurs; the provocateurs instigating Black Lives Matter; drug cartels; gangs; progressive/liberal militants; and others knowingly (or unknowingly) work enough chaos in America for the President to willingly declare martial law and suspend the 2016 elections?

He has no authority to suspend elections. Even if he does suspend elections, the Constitution says the state legislatures can appoint electors to the electoral college.

And he still has his term ending in January 2017. No matter what, Obama will not be President past January 2017.

38 posted on 12/17/2015 3:58:50 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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Why does Obama need to suspend elections when the Democrats already have them rigged?


44 posted on 12/17/2015 4:08:36 PM PST by kaehurowing
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Can Obama use martial law to keep White House post 2016?

Well, Obama did try marital law and that worked.

46 posted on 12/17/2015 4:09:08 PM PST by Slyfox (Ted Cruz does not need the presidency - the presidency needs Ted Cruz)
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The members of Congress have already demonstrated they are capable, willing, and have given aid and comfort to the enemy. The members of Congress have no loyalty to the Constitution and would pervert it for their own gain.


49 posted on 12/17/2015 4:13:22 PM PST by Carl Vehse
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Currently Obama is somewhat restrained by being POTUS...

Out of office, he can do much more damage...


51 posted on 12/17/2015 4:19:52 PM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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I’ve worried about this for years. He’s not above doing anything sinister to achieve his evil goals.


55 posted on 12/17/2015 5:02:22 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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OK, if Obama is holed up in the WH, using Marshall Law, who do you want to try and pry him out?

Ted Cruz?

OR

Donald Trump?


62 posted on 12/17/2015 5:33:11 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.))
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Bammy is pushing for WW3, destroying Israel, and becoming world dictator. This, of course, means elections will have to be canceled.


65 posted on 12/17/2015 7:58:12 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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