Posted on 09/28/2015 2:20:24 AM PDT by Candor7
We love the Can Cannon! Heck, everyone loves the Can Cannon. We’re on record as saying it’s the best fun-gun ever!
So, we were incredibly perturbed to learn that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives recently issued a letter on the Can Cannon saying that when it is affixed to a rifle receiver it is considered a (SBR) or short barrel rifle and when place on a pistol it becomes an (AOW) Any Other Weapon.
Now, by itself, the Can Cannon is not a firearm or a controlled item. But the minute it is put on a rifle receiver or handgun it becomes subject to NFA restrictions.
In other words, to legally possess the Can Cannon on a rifle receiver or handgun one must must obtain approval from the ATF, obtain a signature from the Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO) who is the county sheriff or city or town chief of police (not necessarily permission), pass an extensive background check to include submitting a photograph and fingerprints, fully register the firearm and pay a $200 tax.
You can read more about how to legally buy a NRA-regulated item in this GunsAmerica article.
So, it appears that owners of the Can Cannon have two options: 1. Begin the NFA application process or 2. Refrain from using the Can Cannon until the ATF revises it’s stance.
With respect to number 2, there is reason to be hopeful. Currently, XProducts, the makers of the Can Cannon, are “submitting a revised design” of the Can Cannon to address the issues raised by the ATF in its determination letter. Assuming XProducts is able to satisfy the ATF’s concerns, the Can Cannon may no longer be subject to NFA restrictions when attached to a rifle receiver or handguns.
There’s no telling how long this review process will take, but keep your fingers crossed that in the end the ATF makes the right call and removes all the NFA restrictions on the Can Cannon.
INTERVIEW WITH JAMES MALARKEY OF X PRODUCTS
What will happen to all of the Can Cannons sold? “At this time nothing. They are not illegal to poses and they will be able to exchanged once we have received a determination letter from the ATF on what needs to be changed for them to be legally used on a non class 3 AR lower.”
How many units have been sold? “Between 4,000 and 5,000 units.”
Will welding the gas tube end shut solve the problem? Will welding the gas tube end shut solve the problem? What modifications are you planning on making to appease the ATF? “Currently we are working with 4 potential modifications that can be done to the uppers that will make them legal for everyone to use.”
We currently have submitted two versions this week and are now waiting on the ATF to make a judgment.
List of options
Adding holes after the chamber so that all of the gasses are expelled instantly. Adding holes after the chamber and then welding a plug/plate over the bore so that no projectile can pass. Make the tube 16” long. Rifle the inside of the tube. Options 1 and 2 have been submitted and are thought to make the devices comply with the ATF. The other two options will be explored as last case scenarios.
Some have wondered why X-Products hadn’t already gotten a determination letter from the ATF. They had. “We had already received a determination letter for our upper before the product originally went on sale. After the fact we submitted a complete firearm and they decided to change their minds. This is not the ATFs fault. They are just doing their jobs and we don’t hold it against them.”
The new duck decoy. The new duck decoy. How will they handle all of the uppers that are out there in the wild? “Once we develop and have a proven solution we will offer an exchange program to make sure our customers are take care off properly.”
X PRODUCTS ISN’T STOPPING HERE.
They have many new products launching for the end of 2015 into early 2016.
Weighted and whistling duck decoy for hunters and dog trainers – 2-4 weeks out Net launcher that has a new purpose in life. Netting drones out of the air. -6-7 months out Grappling hook to be used in marine environments for shooting lines form boat to boat. -2 months out 308 launcher that shoots tennis balls. –Waiting on ATF determination for that upper. Top water spear launcher for spear fishing – 4 months out Inflatable vest projectile launcher for boats.
Get over to the X-Proucts page and see what’s going on: http://www.xproducts.com/
Or go to their Facebook page and show supprt: https://www.facebook.com/xproductsllc
It occurs to me that a baseball is pretty much the same diameter as a soda can. Hmmmmmmm.
What does NRA-regulated mean? The NRA is an advocacy group, not a regulatory agency.
That’s exactly it. Red Neck arsenal.
It must be a typo error. Instead of “NRA” it should be “NFA”, which is the techno advisory branch of the ATF to the US firearms industry.
Sharp eye you have there.
EFF ATF
Thanks
If you mix ammo you might be sending a live round down range for you buddy to play catch with instead of a blank and ball. Or has that been addressed
Watch the video, you pretty much can't do that...
What’s next?
Potato guns?
That would be a big Oooops! I was not comfortable with the catch me game either, LOL
Man, I want one. I want one chambered in .308 too. The price is right too. Get yourself an NFA trust and skip the whole fingerprint/CLEO signature business folks.
I don’t point guns at anyone. It’s my training. I am so vehemently opposed to the practice that I won’t play paintball. I realize many people enjoy this activity and wish them well, but when I point a projectile launching device at another human it will be a serious life threatening situation and I won’t hesitate at that time.
NFA actually stands for "National Firearms Act", a 1934 law which prohibited private possession of machineguns, cannon, and other devices, unless you pay to buy a $200 tax stamp for it.
Since the can launcher uses the combustion of gunpowder to launch a projectile, and its bore diameter is over .50", it gets classified as an NFA weapon.
Now, if they made a device that did the same thing using compressed air, the ATF would have no authority over it (although the Consumer Products Safety Commission would then stick their noses in)
Paintball guns (the industry prefers to call them “markers”) are powered by compressed air and larger than .50 caliber. I don’t know how much the CPSC has butted in to their manufacture and sale but I’ve never heard of the ATF trying to regulate them. Surprisingly ...
Had a friend that shot limes with his spud gun. He cut a ring off the end of the barrel and took it along to the grocery to “size” his ammo.
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