[MrB]

Natural gas to wind energy?

Seriously?

These people will fart in the general direction of windmills?

[rellimpank]

--and as an aside to this, but pertintent in the "wind-solar" scams , while I can't speak to all of them one of the proposed solar farms just across the California border from where I live applied for a thirty mile natural gas pipeline , necessary "to keep the fluids warm"when the sun wasn't shining , assuring the public however that the natural gas had no part in the power generation---

--the whole project failed , however--must not even have been able to scam California for enough tax relief and subsidies----

[X-spurt]

What a confusing bunch of “comparison analogies”! And from a supposedly pro gas person.
No wonder the public never knows the truth.

[rockrr]

The company that supplies power to my area bought into the phony “renewable energy” scam in a big way. Washington state passed laws requiring power companies to make 50% of their generation renewable - and as a kicker they excluded hydro. Effectively that leave solar (not so promising in this state!) and wind.

If you know anything about Washington state you know that it is bifurcated by the Cascade mountain range, leaving a western Washington (home of the loonies) and eastern Washington (home of the sagebrush). The wind is strong in eastern Washington (where the people and industry aren’t) and fickle on the west side. Naturally they built their wind farms on the east side - where 50% of the generated power is lost in transmission.

Now they boast of their green-ness but duck & run when customers complain about skyrocketing bills.

[nascarnation]

Everywhere you see wind turbines, you’ll find crony capitalists. Like Tesla, they wouldn’t exist without favorable laws

[Jumper]

So to generate 5% of your total energy usage 30% of your budget spent on thin air... Why don’t they build a river with a damn on campus or around a city which actually has some chance of producing a stream of energy with same amount of monies. Better yet, do not allow college campuses to take themselves off the public grid in any state but make them a customer of the state utilities.

[cicero2k]

The capacity factor of wind is lucky to be even 35%. I would plan on 25%. Meaning 75% nat-gas generation. Nothing wrong with that. Gas is cheap and plentiful. But do we have to have expensive and ugly windmills all over Michigan?