Posted on 03/18/2015 7:43:37 PM PDT by Kartographer
How many times have you seen someone who survived with nothing more than their underwear? They had no "go bag" sitting inside their sleeping area they could grab that had a few basics in it -- like some sort of lightweight but effective means of preserving body heat. Now consider that if this occurs while in a place not so-populated in the winter time you might well be in serious trouble or even die of exposure!
The other place that such disasters commonly happen is in our vehicles. Do you have a small, easily-toted "get me the F out of here" bag in your car? If so, what's in it?
In today's world of cellphones most people blow this sort of thing off. That's a serious mistake; not only is there no guarantee of a signal but cellphones require battery power and can be damaged in a crash or other incident. Water exposure, in particular, can render your phone instantly useless and in many (but not all) cases a fractured screen renders the phone unable to be used as well.
Never mind a reasonable med kit, which most people simply do not have. Why not, given how cheap this is?
If you broke down -- or had a serious mechanical failure and crashed as a result -- 20 miles from nowhere, how serious would this be? What if you find yourself somewhere that forces you to abandon your vehicle for some reason (e.g. it's mechanically broken beyond your ability to fix it) without assistance? It gets even worse if you are on required prescription medication or are injured and have nothing to deal with your injuries.
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Keeping potable water in freezing temps: since the problem is expansion in phase change of water to ice, just pour off some water to leave a larger air chamber. For recycled 2 liter soda bottles I’ve found 2” or a bit more works just fine. Sure, it’s ice still but it’ll do.
No. Government experiments determine that will not happen. Some few may stop but will start again when the car is restarted. I had talks with an expert scientific man who worked for the defense department all his life and all he worked on was the effects of an EMP. Their goal was to harden our large weapons systems to prevent them from being destroyed by an EMP. For years, he was in New Mexico with other scientists where there is an EMP generating lab.
Electronic items plugged in will fry in an EMP. Items not plugged in will not be fried. The EMP, if from the sun, goes directly into electric lines and fries whatever is plugged in.
An EMP from the sun goes in a straight line and will enter the electric grid. An EMP from a nuclear bomb exploded in the atmosphere, is like an umbrella effect over that area (instead of a straight line) and only affects that area - the higher in the atmosphere it is, the larger the affected area. If one such bomb was exploded over the central part of the US, that area would experience trouble, but the east coast and west coast would not be affected as far as melting electronics plugged in.
I won't argue with anyone about the effect of EMPs. There is much faulty information about these effects. I will take the word of the scientist who spent his life, along with other scientists working for the defense dept., as the most reliable. Someone said this scientist would be giving me “secret” information, therefore he couldn't be trusted. That is ridiculous as no “secret” info. was given to me. It is public information that the defense dept. had a program to study EMPs and one of those scientists still advises our government in that regard, again, public information.
“My life hammer is a 1911 in 45acp. Windows surrender immediately.”
Make sure you can get to that 1911 after a car accident to “waste” a window.
“Who in the hell is Bob? Should I know? lol”
He is an earth scientist/geologist and is my “intended”.
Roger that. If it is not on my person I am in the shower.
Well, I continued with the way of life I grew up with as far as being prepared for emergencies. Many people around here also garden and put up their own food.
It was the spike in oil prices, and financial issues that made me enlarge the effort. In my what if scenario, I just asked what would we need to do, if we simply couldn’t afford to buy anything or pay the electricity bill ie: live like a pioneer.
We continue to refine and add to the plan and practice our gardening skills.
That should work. Insert earplugs first if you decide to use the "trigger option".
;-)
-Illness/injury
-Job loss
-Power loss (up to 3 days, both summer and winter)
-Unexpected repairs (DIY)
-Unexpected emergency expense (such as non-DIY repairs or medical expenses)
-Stranded in vehicle (Ok, my 3-day emergency stash is no longer in my truck, because my truck no longer runs, and I had to clean it out so I can sell it. But when I replace the truck, there will be a stash with a sleeping bag, food, etc.)
-Stranded at home (1 month, working on building that up)
I'd like to improve that list, but I have the added complication of a family member who likes to throw things out that he doesn't think he'll need. Several times I've had to replace my food stores because of that. When my house is built and I'm on my own, there will be both a well and a supply of stored water, backups for electricity, some chickens and rabbits for food (garden is already started), and I'll be able to start working on my mechanic's skills. Not having family members around who throw things out would also mean I could have a bug-out bag and it would stay where I put it!
This year I'll have almost 2 acres tilled and ready to plant, on part of my land that one of my neighbors had been borrowing for a hayfield.
“I’m not hooked on my cell phone but the internet is another matter. I’d read a lot.”
I have a collection of real, nonkindle books, just for that reason.
you don’t have any natural disasters there, do you?
“This month working on long-term water collection from rain ... toilets to flush, baths to take, when TSHTF. Barrels for collecting roof runoff”
Let me know your conclusions. I’m sure they’ll be quite analytical and scientific. ;)
Since my property has no creeks - one of 2 drawbacks - i’ll need a renewable source of water.
Plastic barrels and collection of rain run off from the roof. We gets lots of rain in E.TN.
You’re smart.
The only natural disaster we have here in southwestern Colorado is an occasional blizzard and some flooding due to rain storms.
Nothing serious.......yet.
An EMP would get us all.
ok, not the analysis, I expected, LOL!
purification with a filter? calcium hypochlorite?
yup, I love the rain. I was told I’d get tired of it, but it’s been a whole month and I still like it.
Howdy to you! It’s late and I didn’t look at who I was responding to.
I hope you’re all settled in and comfortable.
This is weird, but I love the sound of the roof runoff going through the rain gutters.
Yes, it is late. Looks like I’m not the only one who cannot sleep! Cat races up and down the hall woke me up ;)
As settled as one can be with most of my stuff in boxes. We’ll be taking down some of the walls, floors, and ceilings so I can’t unpack and settle in like it’s permanent. Every room has 70’s paneling, and with my poor vision and the small windows, it is too dark inside in many of the rooms.
I explored the dump this week, got a phone that actually has service at my house, and got new glasses that seem to be adequate. Life is good!
How are you?
It sounds like you’re right on track. Good to hear.
“Cat races in the hall”. LOL
I’m fine, thanks.
I’m in need of new glasses, myself.
Anyone with a lick of sense is apprehensive and at least our side will be better prepared and not surprised.
Use the shelf stable juice bottles. The plastic is thicker and less likely to crack and leak. Fill about 2/3 full with water. Purified is best but tap water will do.
Place in freezer on about a 45 degree angle. You do not want the neck plugged.
There you go.
The bottle will not crack and you have water that, if you need it, will thaw faster then if the ice is in one solid mass at the bottom of the bottle.
I have bottles in the freezer and before I leave I pull one out and top it off with regular water for drinking on the road.
Or you can use Datrex Emergency Survival Water Pouches. They can stand up to the freeze thaw cycles. Me, I am a cheapskate and don't like to pay for what I can get for free.
My only surprise is that this economy has been able to be propped up artificially this long. I’m now using preps that were for emergencies but now need to be used and replaced!
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