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“I am not content to put myself in the hands of one prez, nine blackrobes, and 535 congressmen from a distant, mentally detached, and oblivious, Rome like city-state.” - Jacquerie
1 posted on 03/04/2015 12:07:39 PM PST by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho

Here is an example of an amendment that the states can propose under Article V:

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AMENDMENT XXVIII

To redress the balance of powers between the federal government and the States and to restore effective suffrage of State Legislatures to Congress, the following amendment is proposed:

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Section 1.
A Senator in Congress shall be subject to recall by their respective state legislature or by voter referendum in their respective state.

Section 2.
Term limits for Senators in Congress shall be set by vote in their respective state legislatures but in no case shall be set less than twelve years or more than eighteen years.

Section 3.
Upon a majority vote in three-fifths of state legislatures, federal statutes and federal court decisions shall be overridden.
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If Section 1 above can be replaced with a repeal of the 17th, then that’s even better but it may be a hard sale. Section 1 above gets the job done by making US Senators pay attention to their State Legislators and at the same time requiring both to interact with the state voters.

I would strongly recommend the following must-see video be watched, consumed and studied:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZuV8JnvvA

And I would strongly recommend you to urge your state senator and state representative, and the people that work for them, to view it.


2 posted on 03/04/2015 12:32:42 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Art in Idaho
Go for what, what else could we lose that we have not already or where it is teetering.
3 posted on 03/04/2015 12:35:36 PM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Art in Idaho
At this point, do you really think Congress will abide by the law and allow a constitutional convention? My suspicion is that regardless of whether we get 2/3 of the states to move for one, a con-con will never happen because congress, the courts, and the emperor will simply refuse to acknowledge it. They may, in fact, spin the states' votes into 'articles of secession' as a predication for dissolving the constitutional republic and replacing it with a true centralized tyrannical government.

Don't forget that a majority of American voters were stupid enough to elect- and REELECT this POS president. They can be led by the nose to believe pretty much anything the government wants them to believe.

I have completely given up on any notion that the existing government is even remotely interested in doing the right thing- even when the majority of states provide a constitutional mandate for it.

What congress did yesterday was tantamount to a declaration of war against all American citizens in every state.

Now the question is: regardless of what the states may choose to do, what are we AMERICANS going to do?

5 posted on 03/04/2015 12:39:42 PM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: Art in Idaho; All

Although I have ideas for new amendments to the Constitution, I hope that patriots understand the following. A major part of today’s constitutional problems is that all three branches of the corrupt federal government are blatantly ignoring the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers.

In other words, yes to Article V, but also yes to impeachment and accusations of treason.


13 posted on 03/04/2015 12:58:23 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Art in Idaho

Not going to happen. Congress will never approve something that might get in the way of their personal wealth quest.


16 posted on 03/04/2015 1:00:44 PM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Art in Idaho; Jacquerie
Thank you both for this. Lot of good info/links here. Time to get to work at the local level.

To those who say ART V will never work:
- it is worth the effort,
- it will tend to clarify the question of which politicians are real patriots,
- and it may indeed be a necessary step along the road to a more dramatic resolution.

Let's take care of this while our armed forces are yet manned in the largest part by patriots.

17 posted on 03/04/2015 1:02:04 PM PST by frog in a pot (P.S. Mess with my children and you will suffer long-term debilitating health consequences.)
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To: Art in Idaho; Old Sarge; EnigmaticAnomaly; Califreak; kalee; TWhiteBear; freeangel; Godzilla; ...

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Constitutional Crisis and the Immediacy of Article V

Ping to article, then # 1 , 2 , 5 , 14 .

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21 posted on 03/04/2015 1:35:56 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Art in Idaho

The order of things to come, if a step is successful, then there is no need for the following steps.

1. EMR (Failed)
2. A5CoS (Promising, but kinda like Herding cats)
3. SN (May or may not work)
4. S (If this failes then Step 5.)
5. CW-II (Car flies off Cliff)

Key: EMR = Elect more Republicans, A5CoS = Article V Convention of States, SN = State nullification of Federal laws, S = Secession, CW-II = Civil War MkII.


22 posted on 03/04/2015 1:37:28 PM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Art in Idaho

For later study.


30 posted on 03/04/2015 3:15:05 PM PST by matthew fuller (They do not call the GOP the stupid party without reason.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Never fear the 10th Ammendment is already starting to kick in. As the govt fails to govern the states are stepping in to fill the void. Its going to be like a snowball.


32 posted on 03/04/2015 3:49:27 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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