Posted on 02/01/2015 1:22:38 PM PST by marktwain
Billy Gregory is a successful musician and vocalist in New Orleans. The NOPD is saying that early Friday morning, about 1:15 a.m., the 30th of January, the musician shot a man outside of a night club: From wgno.com:
The NOPD is backing a musician`s claim that he shot a man outside a Marigny nightclub in self-defense.It appears that a 'gutter punk' accosted Gregory. He drew a legally carried pistol and fired one shot to the chest of one of the 'gutter punks', Nicholas Temper, 23 years of age. Temper collapsed in a nearby bar after 911 was called. Temper was helped to the bar by at least two others, according to a witness.
The police report says that 23-year-old Nicholas Temper threatened to commit bodily harm on the 64-year-old musician and take his guitar.
“He said something and the kid got jealous. Got mouthy with Billy,” says Walt.One commenter at nola.com speculates that it was a set up:
Fearing for his safety, police say the musician took out a pistol and shot Temper once in the chest.
Sounds like a set-up to me: girlfriend distracts mark, boyfriend feigns anger over girlfriend to engage mark, rob mark with cowardly friends as back-up. In this case, the mark had a CCP and was armed. A bullet to the chest disrupted the set-up. Looks like the cowardly friends are lucky they don't have lead trinkets in their bodies as well.
Witnesses say other gutter punks followed the Gregory and beat him up.
One suspect was arrested for helping with the assault.
One more suspect remains at large.
Following the shooting, police said Temper's friends attacked the shooter, knocking him to the ground while punching and kicking him. Police said the man sustained several abrasions to his head and arms.This explains the comment from Gregory's friend Walt, who is a doorman at BMC:
“I couldn’t figure out why it was one shot fired, and they all weren’t dead.”
Violent crimes are commonly committed with accomplices. I believe the number is above 50%. Usually, they run off when a gun is pulled and/or a shot is fired. It is important to be aware of the possibility of a retaliatory attack and not become complacent because the immediate threat has been dealt with. We do not have Billy Gregory's side of what happened, but he was probably blind sided and knocked down before he was aware that he was again under attack. I suspect that it happened before the police arrived, but not by much, as they arrested one suspect.
In an urban environment, it is especially difficult to keep track of all the possible threats, and to maintain distance. We may never know exactly what happened. Fortunately, the attack did not seem to cause severe injury or death to Gregory. Very likely he was able to protect his head from some of the kicks and punches. Punching and kicking to the head can easily kill or severely injure a person. Presumably, he could not draw his firearm because he was being held.
The police showed one of their fairly effective roles: be a backup force so that aggressors only have a limited time to carry out their attacks.
I do not know how long Mr. Gregory was being kicked and punched, but something or someone cause the assailants to stop.
Watch for accomplices, watch your back, get to someplace safe.
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I would say, “especially” rather than “even.”
Strange story, but good food for thought about how to handle such situations. He’s lucky they didn’t take his gun and kill him.
Oh boy, I can shoot somebody who “gets mouthy” at me? Cool.
The quote is from one of the New Orleans articles about the shooting. In the quote, “Walt” is someone who did not see the shooting, but is describing what he has heard.
The police did not say the “mouthy” comment.
I’m not sure if this was written by a practiced or professional writer. The story is choppy, and changes the timeline back and forth as it introduces new characters.
Important details surface very late in the piece, and are not followed up on or elaborated on.
A teen and and old man pulled over to the side of the road after a roadrage incident, the teen got out of his car, walked over the older mans car and punched the old man in the face. The old man was carrying and shot the teen dead.
The fault here is that the kid was either too stupid or angry or probably both to realize that assaulting someone might get you shot and you may end up dead.
The important point here is when someone is assaulting you, you don't know if they wish to kill you or just punch you a couple of times. But it is and should be the right of the person being assaulted to assume the worst case.
Wonder if this was a similar situation.
Missing information: did they steal his gun? If not, then why not? In their shoes, you would first want to incapacitate, but then disarm. It would be a priority.
That could be the short description of what happened in Colorado Springs many years ago.
Sometime, much later, the father to the dead teen was on the radio talking about the incident, It took only a few minutes to discover why the son was killed. The apple hadn’t fallen far from the tree, the Dad was a belligerent ass too.
“Missing information: did they steal his gun?”
Yes, I wondered about that as well, but I did not find any reports that mentioned it.
I suspected that the beating had barely started when it was stopped by the arrival of he police, but I cannot be certain.
Or did he run out of ammo ?
Bingo!
The New Orleans police probably took his gun. And the perps knew he was now unarmed.
Similar event in Nashville, TN cost a (unarmed) musician his life. This one was done by 5 children, 12-16.
Five youths, 12 to 16 years old, are charged in Nashville musician’s murder
https://www.foxnews.com/us/five-youths-12-to-16-years-old-are-charged-in-nashville-musicians-murder
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