ND: Handgun + 4 Robbers = Violent Crime Stopped Cold

Gun Watch ^ | 2 January, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

Fargo, North Dakota has not been a hotbed of violent crime.  That may have changed with the oil boom that has been going on for the past decade.  It appears that a number of transients and homeless people have found their way to the city.   Last Monday, at noon, it was just below zero with a 10 mph wind.  It was not a good time to be outdoors.    To be knocked unconscious and left to lay exposed could have been fatal.

Fortunately for the victim in this crime, a concealed carry permit holder witnessed enough of the assault and robbery to hold the four suspects at gunpoint until the police arrived.  From inforum.com:

Lt. Joel Vettel said one of the four knew the victim and lured him behind a building in the 900 block of NP Avenue. There, the man was assaulted, knocked unconscious and robbed of his wallet, Vettel said.

Police were dispatched to the scene about 12:10 p.m. and learned that the passer-by, who has a license to carry a concealed weapon, brandished his gun to end the robbery, Vettel said.

All five people participants are now out of the weather.   The four suspects are in jail, and the victim is likely in the hospital, at least for observation.  Being knocked unconscious often has serious consequences.

 In very cold weather, there are difficulties in carrying a handgun openly.  Most gun belts and shoulder holsters do not work well over parkas and heavy coats.  Moreover, below zero temperatures tend to solidify some lubricants.  Many think it best to keep the handgun under the outerwear, and it that case, it will be concealed.

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[ought-six]

Mexicans. I am so not surprised.

[ought-six]

No, a .380 would not be my first choice, or my second choice. But if a .380 is all that is available, well....

[Nervous Tick]

Oh and by the way, I have Comanche ancestors.

But I don’t wear it like a merit badge, and I particularly don’t wear it like a chip on my shoulder. Why?

Because first, last, and foremost, I’m a proud AMERICAN. Not a German-Scottish-Irish-Comanche-American. Just an A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N.

[MV=PY]

Thanks! Very tasteful. Some subtle bending in the intro without allowing it to approach “country.” You dialed way back on the highs throughout, leaving plenty of room for the guitar.

Around 3:40 or so you fill like an organ where the cello sneaks in. It’s so rich I’m not sure there ISN’T an organ in there.

Well done! You know what you’re doing.

[Fightin Whitey]

Well, you’re right about one thing.

You are nothing to spend time on.

I didn’t know that until now.

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

Thank you very much! Neil liked the way I could play string trio parts. I was using my Kline 12 string Universal guitar. That low string is my cello string. There are no strings in that recording,,,, only me duplicating the string parts.

[Nervous Tick]

Mexicans. I am so not surprised.

See Post #22

[Tainan]

...and the train rolls on...nice.

[MV=PY]

"That low string is my cello string"

Ok, I swear I can hear the bow. How are you processing the pedal steel signal?? (or.. what the heck is a cello string?)

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

“How are you processing the pedal steel signal?? (or.. what the heck is a cello string?)”

It’s not really a cello string, it’s just a string that is in the same range as cello. I am able to play string trio parts on the pedal steel. Cello on the low end, then viola, and on top, violin. Neil liked the way I could change voicings with my pedals. Strings can’t do that with the same sound.

[advertising guy]

A 380 wore inside the belt and 100 grain would penetrate clothes all day

[S.O.S121.500]

I’ve paid attention to you guys since I got here—long after you, it is true—and I would have expected better from both of you.
-—==0==-—
Do you expect better from the NDN brethren? That should be the focus of your ire. Some seem a disgrace to the race, maybe the 10% who shame the 90.

[Afterguard]

I grew up in Moorhead, just across the Red River from Fargo. Both great towns but literally painfully cold. My dad used to say we had 9 months of winter and 3 months of lousy sledding.

[G Larry]

Two of my nephews went to work up there.

The crime and the craziness caused the younger one to go back home to Washington.

Lots of drugs, booze, fights, and gunfire in the nights in the shanty towns that have sprung up.

There is no “good advice” at how best to survive in that environment.
Just leave.

[Fightin Whitey]

No disagreement about expecting more, and the disgrace by a few.

Although I would think the percentages might not be quite as generous as you suggest.

I wasn’t standing up for the perps, not at all.

[taxcontrol]

Moreover, below zero temperatures tend to solidify some lubricants

When I was stationed in Germany with the Army in the 80's, we went to Graff during the winter for our gunnery exercise. It got so cold that the .50's would freeze solid and not operate if we used the standard lubricants. We had to bring them inside the vehicles, let them thaw, wipe off the lubricants and put on a thin coat of a special arctic lubricant. If I remember correctly, the temps were in the -40 F range.

[taxcontrol]

First rule of a gun fight ... gun beats no gun.

[MV=PY]

Yep - I know it’s not really a cello string. ;-)

I’m just curious because I’ve never heard that sound come out of my GFI (not that I play it that much).

Are you using a thumb pick when you get that “cello” sound? The attack sounds soft.

Thanks for your patience...

[Utilizer]

Great explanation, but I still don’t like the operatic voices.

I think it is more the manner of "opera" singing that can intrigue, and not all of it is of the 'bellowing' type.

Try this one then:

Operatic Singing

Could be a good opera, perhaps, with a bit of work (as he posts from the Opera browser, LOL). :)

[Utilizer]

Or, try this one on for a different take:

Ode To Joy

From one instrument to several, then lots of voices that definitely do NOT sound like shouting.