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It’s Time to Demilitarize the Police
Charting Course ^ | 12/26/14 | Steve Berman

Posted on 12/26/2014 11:53:02 AM PST by lifeofgrace

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1 posted on 12/26/2014 11:53:03 AM PST by lifeofgrace
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To: lifeofgrace
I more worried about the militarization of the feral government's alphabet agencies.
2 posted on 12/26/2014 11:55:36 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Any energy source that requires a subsidy is, by definition, "unsustainable.")
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To: lifeofgrace

Its not going to happen when leftards are in the street screaming for dead cops.


3 posted on 12/26/2014 12:03:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: lifeofgrace

Where’s the ring mount 30 cal?


4 posted on 12/26/2014 12:08:56 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And that is the problem. Stop this crap in it’s tracks locally first, or you will never have any hope of stopping it at the federal level. Barney Fife police depts have no business being as well armed as a Marine rifle company. No knock warrants only perpetuate the cycle and need to be done away with.


5 posted on 12/26/2014 12:09:59 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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6 posted on 12/26/2014 12:16:06 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: lifeofgrace

We need to fix policing and the justice system, legalizing drugs doesn’t do that.

The left twists everything into a push to legalize drugs, we will never demilitarize the cops or fix policing and search law and confiscations, if we keep letting them hijack our efforts and turn it into “legalize drugs”.


7 posted on 12/26/2014 12:21:36 PM PST by ansel12
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To: null and void; bamahead

Libertarian and JBT ping.

I find this is actually a pretty good analysis of the facts.

It’s not written from a hardcore libertarian “All cops are scum” approach, not is it written to appease the “copsuckers”.


8 posted on 12/26/2014 12:25:33 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: lifeofgrace
It’s Time to Demilitarize the Police

The local police should be armed to the level that the local citizens want.

Just because some individual police or some local police departments doesn't know how to handle their level of weaponry doesn't mean all departments don't know how to handle their weaponry.

A generalized headline that says Time to Demilitarize the Police smells like an appeal to weaken local power and an appeal to increase federalized power.

Hands up don't shoot.

9 posted on 12/26/2014 12:31:38 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: lifeofgrace

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It’s past time to de-brutalize a segment of society.


10 posted on 12/26/2014 12:34:08 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: raybbr

BFL


11 posted on 12/26/2014 12:54:48 PM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: ansel12
Jefferson and Madison didn't put anything in the Constitution prohibiting personal choice in medical treatment. It is a God give drive to seek relief from sickness, pain and suffering. Is it not? I'm pretty sure that's why they didn't bother to put it in there. It's so basic of a drive they felt it unnecessary to even mention it. Kinda like why there are no laws on teeth brushing or bathing.

Bottom line No Govt has any business what an individual takes for what ever reason they take it. PERIOD.

All the gang violence and smuggling WILL CEASE when the rights of the individual are restored. Why buy something of unknown quality or condition from shady thugs, when you can legally buy it at a pharmacy for less? Let the light of day and truth shine on it and the cockroaches will scatter!


War on Drugs? How many drugs get killed each day from it? How many people? How about a lil truth in advertising?

12 posted on 12/26/2014 1:17:00 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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The problem is in militarized police, the way they serve warrants, confiscations, and it goes all the way through the law enforcement food chain and the justice/legal system.

We could legalize drugs right this second, and it doesn’t change that.

Don’t hijack our efforts to fix policing and government, by turning it into yet another push for dope.


13 posted on 12/26/2014 1:24:43 PM PST by ansel12
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To: lifeofgrace

Sooner or later I expect a court to rule that we have the right to anti-tank weapons since the government is deploying tanks on our streets.


14 posted on 12/26/2014 1:38:05 PM PST by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: ansel12

By all means then lets keep prosecuting a 100 year old war that amounts to a domestic Vietnam that has never stopped the flow of drugs into the country, keeps prisons filled up with minorities, doesn’t do a damn thing to keep drugs out of the hands of kids and makes criminals rich and corrupts cops, judges,, and has major banks and financial institutions getting their cut for laundering the money. Yup, a winning strategy all the way around.


15 posted on 12/26/2014 1:57:43 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away and the kids are in charge.)
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If our government is creating the Vietnam war in America against us, then legalizing drugs isn’t going to fix that government.


16 posted on 12/26/2014 2:01:24 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12
You missed my point. The metaphor I used about an domestic Vietnam is in the context that this ‘’War on Drugs’’ has been going for 100 Years!, just as the Vietnam seemed interminable. It hasn't stopped the flow of drugs into the country, it doesn't nothing except criminals rich and it is the one crime more than any other that brings police in direct and often tense and violent contact with minorities. Ever wonder why it's easy for kids to get drugs? Because dealer don't ask for id.And what should I as an adult be free to smoke marijuana or do cocaine? What do you give a rip if I were to if it was legal? If you want to keep drugs illegal then lets go whole hog and bring back alcohol prohibition and eliminate tabacco while were at it.
17 posted on 12/26/2014 2:15:50 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away and the kids are in charge.)
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To: lifeofgrace

There is nothing in the Constitution about “professional” police and that is a potential problem.

Back in the day, citizens kept the peace in their own neighborhoods. If someone violated the common law, your neighbors (the posse) would come to your aid and apprehend the hooligan. If the trouble involved a lot of bad guys, the citizens formed a militia to deal with it.

If there was a question about whether someone deserved to be charged with a crime, the grand jury would decide that question, then a jury of your peers would decide guilt or innocence.

However, today’s police are rapidly crossing the line from peacekeepers to a standing army, and that is a very serious issue. The Framers hated the idea of the government owning an army without an enemy, because history showed that such an army would always be used against the citizenry. Always.

We have a problem but no easy answers.


18 posted on 12/26/2014 2:17:54 PM PST by DNME (Quietly carry concealed, at all times and places.)
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To: jmacusa

Even legalizing all crime doesn’t fix anything, we have problems with government and policing that need to be fixed, and legalizing drugs is not going to fix it.


19 posted on 12/26/2014 2:23:12 PM PST by ansel12
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To: DNME

What day was it in America that had no law, except whatever the locals made up?


20 posted on 12/26/2014 2:25:04 PM PST by ansel12
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