Posted on 12/10/2014 5:38:36 PM PST by marktwain
Link to video here
In this dramatic video of an attempted armed robbery of a gunshop in Springdale, Arkansas, on December 6, 2014, one robber is wounded, and the gunshop owner is hit by a spent bullet that does not break the skin.
The two suspects, Marcus Gould, and Leon Roberson, are from California and are in custody. Gould has a long criminal record, and was wounded in the arm by a shot fired by Shirley Cornett, who owns the store with her husband. A bullet fired back was slowed by coin books on the counter before it hit Shirley. From 5newsonline.com:
Police said 25-year-old Marcus Gould and 20-year-old Leon Roberson are in custody after attempting to rob the store carrying semi-automatic pistols. They said the owner, Shirley Cornett, pulled out her .38 revolver and shot Gould in the arm as he was jumping over the counter towards her husband, Clint.It appears that more than four shots were fired. One or two by Shirley, at least one by Gould, and at least two by Roberson.
Owner Clint Cornett spoke to 5NEWS about the incident at their home Sunday night. Cornett said his wife was still very shaken up, and said the bullet that Gould fired back at her hit a stack of books on the counter, then hit her chest. He said the bullet did not break her skin.
Bullets flew across Thompson Street on Tuesday after employees of a pawn shop thwarted an armed robbery.©2014 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
Shots fired at the robber zipped from C&S Gun Shop across Thompson and hit the plate glass window of P&N Oriental Market. Witnesses said shots also hit a silver or tan vehicle used as a getaway car.
18 U.S. CODE § 921 (i) outlaws for civilian use a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium....
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a good wheel gun. I do not understand your reasoning.
There are some gun stores in the area that don't have armed employees or allow customers to carry - doesn't make a bit of sense to me. If one were to walk into a store and see weapons on the hips of most folks in it, they wouild not be so prone to attempt a robbery.
Quite simply, not enough rounds. A year or so ago there was this woman trapped in the attic with an intruder pursuing her. She emptied her wheel gun and the guy was still alive. Darren Wilson, a trained police officer, needed 10 rounds to stop his assailant. If he'd had a wheel gun, the gentle giant would have killed him. The FBI learned its lesson in the 1986 Miami shootout and got rid of its wheel guns.
Wheel guns are great if you're into cowboy shooting. But as a personal defense weapon, their only place might be as a backup gun. With my Glock 23 and two spare mags, I have 40 rounds at my disposal. And even if you have a couple of speed loaders, you only have 15 or 18 rounds max, and the average person can swap out mags much faster than the average person can eject empty casings and reload by hand or with speed loaders.
Bottom line, a semi automatic is a much better choice for personal defense, especially when faced with someone high on drugs, or multiple assailants.
> Is there a thug so stupid as to fire a gun while in an air lock style door?
These thugs are attempting to rob a gun store. Q.E.D.
Darren Wilson, a trained police officer, needed 10 rounds to stop his assailant....I’ve posted the whole story on FR so this is the short version. Us old cops were at the range and some rookies showed up with autos. The first round of firing had all the old wheelmen hitting 5-6 and 6-6 in the middle ring all killing shots. The rookies all fired sixteen shots each and the high kill ratio was three and usually one kill for the twelve rookies. I turned to my partner and said “Gonna be a lot of damage and innocent people killed in the near future.”
You forgot “clean, clean, clean”... ;-P
That's a training issue, and that can be fixed. There is no fix for running out of ammo in a gun fight.
“That’s a training issue, and that can be fixed. There is no fix for running out of ammo in a gun fight.”
You can apply the same logic to wheel guns. If training is your solution, then more training can mean fast reloading with a wheel gun, or accurate shooting.
I carry a semi-auto, myself, most of the time.
But it appears that in this video, the two with semi-autos got off the same number of shots as the woman with a five-shot revolver.
And no one reloaded.
It would be a nice gesture but I believe you need to get someone more publicly into the RKBA to do it.
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