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Off-shoring American jobs - good for corporations, bad for everyone else
Communities Digital News ^ | September 20, 2014 | Richard Cameron

Posted on 09/20/2014 2:28:08 PM PDT by Noremac

Edited on 09/20/2014 3:07:25 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Every now and then I see an article that is so reality deficient that it commits what amounts to sexual assault against common sense. Actually I see them all the time, but one in particular had me shaking my head.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: freetrade; offshoring; outsourcing; unemployment
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1 posted on 09/20/2014 2:28:08 PM PDT by Noremac
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To: Noremac

Long term, it is not good for corporations either. At some point, if it continues, Americans, who are the prime consumers of most corporations, if they are impoverished, they will also stop buying goods and services and corporations will lose their profits.


2 posted on 09/20/2014 2:33:03 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Noremac

i work for a big company that is moving our accounts payable to India. It isn’t like the AP people made a lot of money in the first place. I just can’t imagine there is THAT much benefit in the bigger picture.

I sometimes have to contact Hewlet Packard - for a while I was wondering if the bay area was so overrun with Mexicans that HP couldn’t hire any “white” people and then discovered all these people I was talking to are in Mexico. At least they’re not trying to dodge the Border Patrol.


4 posted on 09/20/2014 2:39:22 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coups d’état .)
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To: Jonty30

you blaming corporations or government and liberalism?


5 posted on 09/20/2014 2:44:03 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Noremac

Why do businesses go off-shore? Government rules and regulations and overall government incompetence. Budgets that never balance, spending out of control, dollar devaluation as a result of deficits and the government employees, who are parasites live high on the hog and working Americans are shafted daily.


6 posted on 09/20/2014 2:44:34 PM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: Jonty30
Long term, it is not good for corporations either

Corporations don't think long term. Their focus is on the present and what's happening with their stock price.

7 posted on 09/20/2014 2:49:59 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Noremac

Jobs are not “American jobs.”

They are positions created by companies who chose to domicile here.

When they leave, they may take jobs with them.

The fault lies with the government - its laws, agencies and tax system - and the attorneys.


8 posted on 09/20/2014 2:55:31 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Noremac

Lost mine of 15 years due to NAFTA....Now some Mexican is doing my job for %65 less pay....but he can’t buy anything or go anywhere and has to live in a company “colonia”.


9 posted on 09/20/2014 3:01:44 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I’m not blaming anybody, actually.

It’s simple economics. When your primary customers, the American consumer, cannot buy your product, you become unprofitable.

However, if you were to assign blame, everybody has a share in it: consumers, government, tax policies, focus on ahort-term profits, liberals, conservatives.


10 posted on 09/20/2014 3:07:08 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: DoodleDawg

Companies don’t make decisions, people do. In many cases those people only care about this quarters bonus. The board and stockholders should care about the long term.


11 posted on 09/20/2014 3:08:30 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Jonty30
It’s simple economics. When your primary customers, the American consumer, cannot buy your product, you become unprofitable.

Well yes, and no. In theory, you are correct....but at the company level, if you can stay in business by outsourcing, and cannot by remaining domestic, then that company is never going to worry about the teeny affect they have on the whole, nor should they. ALSO: Most of these companies also sell a lot overseas, so they do not necessarily suffer if American consumers suffer.

However, if you were to assign blame, everybody has a share in it: consumers, government, tax policies, focus on ahort-term profits, liberals, conservatives.

That is true - just like with domestic illegal labor, consumers benefit just like employers do. It's competitive, and savings are passed along to consumers. I would say that 99% of the blame goes to government though. It's government policy that makes all of these things happen. The rest of the universe is simply trying to survive in the landscape government has given us, period.

12 posted on 09/20/2014 3:15:05 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Noremac

Get rid of a few federal agencies (EPA, FDA, Departments of Education and Energy, etc.), corporate taxes and unions and this country would explode with opportunity and growth.


13 posted on 09/20/2014 3:15:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I would say that the American consumer shares a higger blame than >1%.

It can be said that corporations, aside from reacting to tax policy, are also reacting to the consumer demand for the lowest price.


14 posted on 09/20/2014 3:22:38 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Aria

Yeah, people who owe money are really going to want to pay up when they hear “Randy” from Mumbai pestering them about their past-due bill. Must be counting on the irritation factor to make past-dues pay up rather than hearing from “Randy” again.


15 posted on 09/20/2014 3:23:58 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Jonty30
I would say that the American consumer shares a higger blame than >1%. It can be said that corporations, aside from reacting to tax policy, are also reacting to the consumer demand for the lowest price.

That is a very reasonable assessment, very accurate about how it plays out. My only quibble? I still give gov almost all the blame, because consumers, just like companies, are often just trying to survive the economic landscape our government has forced on us. And often consumers are companies - as business to business products and services are a huge part of the economy too.

16 posted on 09/20/2014 3:26:24 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

And I agree with you that the government is the biggest factor in this problem. The government should be creating the conditions for the best economic growth, then stay out of the way.


17 posted on 09/20/2014 3:29:27 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

When. companies are moving to countries more socialist and communistic than our own, saying it is because of taxes and regs is bullshit. They want cheap labor, period. I agree someday when the U.S. has no good paying jobs left, then they too will bite it.


18 posted on 09/20/2014 3:36:21 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Jonty30

Families, consumers and companies owe it to themselves to survive first and foremost. Like you said, government should create the right conditions and then GTFO of the way.


19 posted on 09/20/2014 3:39:31 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

They want cheap labor because the consumer demands products at the lowest prices.


20 posted on 09/20/2014 3:42:28 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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