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Elliot Rodger Shooting Prompts Feinstein to Blame NRA ‘Stranglehold’ on Guns
Roll Call ^ | May 25, 2014 | Steven Dennis

Posted on 05/25/2014 2:29:01 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife


Feinstein questioned why Elliot Rodger was allowed to own guns, and ripped the NRA’s “stranglehold” on Congress. (Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call File Photo)

Elliot Rodger’s shooting spree had Sen. Dianne Feinstein lamenting the “stranglehold” the NRA has over gun laws.

“The deadly shooting in Isla Vista is heartbreaking,” the California Democrat said Sunday in a statement. “Schools should be places of safety, not where students fear for their lives.”

Feinstein questioned why Elliot Rodger was able to legally obtain and keep his guns.

“We must ask ourselves if an individual whose family called police with concerns about mental health, who is receiving therapy and who has had several run-ins with police should be allowed to own multiple firearms and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. When anyone, no matter their mental health or history, can so easily obtain any gun they want and as many as they want—we must recognize there is a problem.

“Unfortunately the NRA continues to have a stranglehold on Congress, preventing even commonsense measures like universal background checks that have overwhelming support. Americans need to rise up and say enough is enough. Until that happens, we will continue to see these devastating attacks. Shame on us for allowing this to continue.”

Separately, Rep. Tim Murphy, R-Pa., pushed for Congress to pass his mental health legislation in the wake of the Elliot Rodger’s rampage in Isla Vista.

An effort to pass background checks and a package of mental health initiatives was torpedoed by a GOP-led filibuster in the Senate last year.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; elliotrodger; feinstein; mentalillness; nra
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Knife - (3) stabbed to death.

Gun - (12) 4 shot to death (inc killer shooting himself), 8 wounded.

Car - (4) injured victims run down by killer with his car

Unknown - (1) wounded (unspecified/unknown origin)

Rampage in college town began with stabbings [heavily armed: used guns, knives, car]

1 posted on 05/25/2014 2:29:01 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Was there any reason to not sell him the guns at the time?


2 posted on 05/25/2014 2:31:11 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The government has enough bullets to shoot each American more than 8 times and they bad mouth the NRA?


3 posted on 05/25/2014 2:31:19 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

...didn’t California just pass a bunch of gun laws to prevent stuff like this from happening?


4 posted on 05/25/2014 2:31:19 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The crypt Feinstein lives in should be permanently locked.
5 posted on 05/25/2014 2:33:09 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This will go no where.
Any one with 1/2 a brain knows the kid was a lunatic and his father and mother are the root cause.
The father is a total moron and will not accept the fact his F’ed up son is a frigen mas-murderer.
We will see this AH out there with hoodies F’ed up mom displaying their denial about they fact they had screwed up off spring.He better hope to hell he wasn’t involved in the purchase of the weapon although I hope he was.


6 posted on 05/25/2014 2:34:50 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Frankenstein doesn’t waste any time does she. How about the fact that the kid was a complete nut case, has about 10 billion photos of himself on Facebook, a complete over the top narcissist which to me is a clear sign that hmm....You know what, maybe somethings not quite right with this kid.

It’s ANOTHER case where they KNEW he had mental issues, and once again what was done about it? NOTHING! Once again it’s all the fault of the NRA even though he also killed with a knife and his car.

Hey Diane Frankenstein: F U


7 posted on 05/25/2014 2:35:48 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

They didn’t do nothing. I think the kid had been under the care of a psychiatrist since 13.


8 posted on 05/25/2014 2:36:56 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think that that BMW and the manufacture of the knife needs to be held accountable. Who sold him (or purchased for him) that car? Who sold him that knife? Did they do a background check? Was there a 10 day waiting period?


9 posted on 05/25/2014 2:37:45 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (The more I know, the more I realize that how much more there is to learn.)
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To: Ted Grant

My point on this is authorities had been WARNED on SEVERAL
occasions about this young man. WHY did they NOT check to just see if this young man was TRYING to, or RECENTLY purchased firearms, in
CA. it takes FOREVER to actually take a firearm HOME!!!! WHY did they
NOT run a very simple check on this!!!


10 posted on 05/25/2014 2:39:50 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Kit cat

That’s not to say they did nothing.


11 posted on 05/25/2014 2:40:51 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Unfortunately the NRA continues to have a stranglehold on Congress, preventing even commonsense measures like universal background checks that have overwhelming support. Americans need to rise up and say enough is enough. Until that happens, we will continue to see these devastating attacks. Shame on us for allowing this to continue.”

Shame on you Senator Feinstein on trying to manipulate a sad situation for political purposes. Isn’t it amazing the same people who want all of these stringent background checks on people purchasing guns are the same ones who decry implementing voter ID laws.


12 posted on 05/25/2014 2:41:58 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The real blame here lies with the cops (not excusing the perp, of course).

In this instance they actually met and talked with the perp due to some of the crazy crapola he had posted. They knew he was nuts and making threats. And then he posted the crazy video a whole day before the rampage. How's that? I viewed the video. It clearly constitutes the crime of criminal threats in California.

In general, these events are mostly caused by seriously deranged people, most of whom were known. The guy who shot the Congresswoman Gifford in AZ,for example, was worshipping a skull in his parents' backyard. C'mon.

There's no disagreement that a guy like this who is known to have made credible threats not only should not have had a gun but should have been under 72 hour (at least) observation after he posted his initial "manifesto" and plan online a year ago. Maybe even charges could have been filed at that time and he would at least have been on probation - maybe even ankle monitor, by now

Libtards are again making a straw man argument. They want to use this case to take away my gun. But nobody in their right mind would disagree that a guy who's obviously gone around the bend like the UCSB shooter should be stripped of his 2nd Amendment rights.

The cops really dropped the ball on this one. So much for "to serve and to protect." Those victims and their families and the public at large can't be feeling real protected right now. Indeed, he clearly should have been in the criminal justice system - maybe in mental health court or something - for over a year now.

I hope that at least somebody in the media will hold the cops' feet to the fire on this one and demand an explanation why the shooter wasn't picked up for the crime of criminal threats (I'm a CA criminal defense lawyer - as I said the stuff he posted the day before the shooting was clearly - I mean beyond the shadow of a doubt - constituted the crime of terrorist threats). In fact, given the detail and the background, the DA probably could have pressed a felony conviction and given him a year in jail to cool his heels. There's absolutely no excuse why this moron wasn't in custody awaiting arraignment first court day next Tuesday.

13 posted on 05/25/2014 2:43:07 PM PDT by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No lib should have guns. And they should pay double the taxes.


14 posted on 05/25/2014 2:43:11 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

From msn.com “New clues about Elliot Rodger, 22, the man accused of the deadly Calif. shootings, reveal how he apparently grew to resent women & developed a desire to ‘punish’ them.”

Sounds just like an NRA supporter to me./s


15 posted on 05/25/2014 2:44:17 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Tzimisce

YES, YES, YES, CA. Has the most ridiculous gun laws, NOBODY after
being WARNED about this young man ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS,
ever did a simple CHECK to SEE if he HAD firearms, these weapons were purchased VERY recently STUPID authorities!!!!!!


16 posted on 05/25/2014 2:45:35 PM PDT by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: dowcaet

We need to change the title of Senator to Horse,s Patoot.


17 posted on 05/25/2014 2:46:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Feinstein is evil and corrupt.

The old lady has long ago outlived her usefulness, if she EVER had any.

People like her poison public service, IMHO.


18 posted on 05/25/2014 2:46:46 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: CGASMIA68

Perhaps the fact that the kids parents produced violent fantasy movies where people killed each other for not good reason may have had a bit more impact the NRA, which this kid may not have even known stood for National Rifle Association.

One of the really humorous and ironic things about the Democrat propaganda organ and low information, easily led Americans is that these lowfos HATE the NRA with a passion, but if you ask them what the acronym NRA stands for the majority have idea what NRA is an acronym for.

All they know is that they have been conditioned by politicians and their megaphones in the media to reflexively think , ‘NRA BAD, people who support NRA stupid and BAD” and that NRA is somehow linked to guns which are REALLY BAD, SUPER SCARY and REALLY DANGEROUS and which are only owned by people who are similarly bad, scary and dangerous.


19 posted on 05/25/2014 2:47:28 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Tzimisce

They must have forgetten one; The law California Law that says if you have been hospitalized due to your mental problems, then you cannot legally get a gun. A 5150 law allows for a three day stay in the psych. ward to assess your level of danger to self and other. This would have made all the difference.

In Elliot’s case, neither parent, no teachers, neither of his two childhood friends called 911 for help. That’s what you do to take things to the next step when there is a clear and present danger, you ask for professional intervention. This boy was smart and manipulative enough to switch the symptoms off in front of those who could lock him up, as with the police.


20 posted on 05/25/2014 2:50:47 PM PDT by lee martell
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