Posted on 05/22/2014 8:52:08 AM PDT by JOHN W K
Mark Levin loves to TALK ABOUT SOCIALISM and how it attacks rights associated with property ownership, and how government force is used under socialism to take and then transfer the property of one group of individuals to another group selectively determined by those who hold political power. This transfer of property is primarily accomplished through a socialist tax on profits, gains, and other incomes which seeks out the most productive hard working citizens, taxes them, and then redistributes the property they have earned to those who enjoy riding in governments free cheese wagon who are expected to return the favor by prostituting their vote to those giving free government cheese which in turn keeps socialists at the helm of government power. So why does Mark Levin promote with one of his liberty amendments the socialist tax on profits, gains and other incomes which is the engine that fuels our socialist free cheese wagon?
Mark Levins Liberty Amendment which proposes to perpetuate the socialist income tax reads as follows:
SECTION 1: Congress shall not collect more than 15 percent of a persons annual income, from whatever source derived. Person shall include natural and legal persons.
SECTION 2: The deadline for filing federal income tax returns shall be the day before the date set for elections to federal office.
SECTION 3: Congress shall not collect tax on a decedents estate.
SECTION 4: Congress shall not institute a value-added tax or national sales tax or any other tax in kind or form.
SECTION 5: This Amendment shall take effect in the fourth fiscal year after its ratification.
If Mark Levin were sincere about ending the socialist state, would he not then promote the following H.J.RESOLUTION?
House/Senate Joint Resolution
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the sixteenth article of amendment and end taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other incomes.
Section 1: The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Section 2: Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.
Section 3: This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by three fourths of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission thereof to the States by the Congress.
These words, if added to our Constitution, would bring us back to our Constitutions ORIGINAL TAX PLAN, as our founders intended it to operate, and they would end the socialist experiment with taxes calculated from profits, gains and other incomes.
JWK
..with all these blessings, what more is necessary to make us a happy and a prosperous people? Still one thing more, fellow-citizensa wise and frugal Government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government, and this is necessary to close the circle of our felicities. Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address
Yup, Mark is a Socialist. Good call.... /sarc
Obviously he’s looking for an broadly palatable solution. Flat tax or Fair tax-— how would you fund the country’s (some long-off day’s Constitutional) operation?
I wouldn’t call Mark Levin a socialist by any means.
But I do agree with you about this particular tax issue. We need to repeal the 16th Amendment.
Although the repeal of the 16th is an attractive idea, it is a bridge too far. There is insufficient political support for the amendment. Politicians and the public simply won’t go there at this point in history.
Levin’s proposed amendment will cause a lot of complaining among the socialists but it has the potential to gain steam and support.
Just one opinion—there may well be other issues here and it is certainly a worthy discussion. Thank you for your post.
Levin in his book openly said that a convention can come up with its own amendments, that those in the book are his recommendations.
As for me, I would recommend an amendment to repeal the 16th amendment, with its arrogant language. Then work from there.
How about the 17th? Surely the participating states would be on-board with that.
I agree with Mark Levin on this. He is the antithesis of a socialist liberal and he has valid reasons as outlined here for doing what he is doing.
BookMark.
BRB with popcorn ;)
I never understood why Levin wants to ban the possibility of a Fair Tax. He says on his show that he’s open to it, but the Liberty Amendment is anti-Fair Tax.
JWK
Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to Americas future Prosperity ___ from Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan, no longer in print.
The Liberty Amendments and the Convention of States is a silly idea and doesn’t deserve as much attention as you’re giving it. How many laws will judges overturn or government ignore before we realize we have a people problem, not a policy problem?
SECTION 2: The deadline for filing federal income tax returns shall be the day before the date set for elections to federal office.
Mr. deep thinker did not think that one out well. With all the early voting, his proposal would move "tax day" to right after nearly everyone has voted.
JWK
They are not liberals. They are conniving Marxist thieves who use the cloak of government force to steal the property which labor, business and investors have worked to create
I like the concept of all taxes abolished except for those on purchased goods. The only thing though is the Marxists and RINO backstabbbers would want a 90% tax on everything you buy while making themselves exempt from it.
Weiner Nation
That's exactly the kind of thinking that has put us right where we are today. It's time someone stand up and say enough is enough. Bipartisanship? Hogwash. Do the right thing or get out. I'm tired of seeing this country destroyed by wishywashy thinking that we have to be "bipartisan".
House/Senate Joint Resolution
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the sixteenth article of amendment and end taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries and other incomes.
Section 1: The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
Section 2: Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money.
Section 3: This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by three fourths of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission thereof to the States by the Congress.
These words, if added to our Constitution, would bring us back to our Constitutions ORIGINAL TAX PLAN, as our founders intended it to operate, and they would end the socialist experiment with taxes calculated from profits, gains and other incomes.
JWK
I’m with you.
IM not too HO, if the 17th were repealed, a lot of our troubles dissolve as the Senate is again filled with thoughtful statesmen, who should put the brakes on socialist pandering to the lowest desires of dishonest men.
H.R. 25 proposes to create two new taxes, a 23 percent tax upon the purchase of articles of consumption, and another 23 percent tax upon the sale of labor, and would not withdraw Congress power to lay and collect taxes calculated from profits, gains and other incomes.
Although H.R. 25 proposes under its sunset provision that after a seven year period once the fair tax is in operation and if the 16th Amendment is not repealed in that time period, the fairtax will be ended, it is important to note its companion legislation to repeal the 16th Amendment [H.R. 16], even if adopted into our Constitution, Congress would retain the power to lay and collect taxes calculated from profits, gains, and other incomes as was done during the civil war when the first income tax was levied and was later upheld as being constitutional.
I also reject the fairtax because it violates the wisdom of our founding fathers under which they agreed that any general tax laid among the states would be apportioned so that each states contribution of the total sum being collected would be proportionately equal to its representation in Congress ___a rule based upon an idea of representation with a proportional financial obligation, or, one man, one vote, and one vote one dollar. Socialists love their one man one vote part of the rule of apportionment but fear with a passion one vote one dollar.
Under the fairtax although the people of a state may contribute a larger share to fund the federal government, they may not get a proportionately equal say in Congress relative to their contribution on how their money will be spent because the rule of apportionment would not be observed!
And what were the very intentions behind the rule of apportioning both representatives and any general tax laid among the States?
In Federalist No. 54 we are reminded that our Constitutions rule requiring an apportionment of both Representatives and direct taxes
will have a very salutary effect. Madison observes in this paper . . . Were the various States share of representation alone to be governed by this rule, they would have an interest in exaggerating their inhabitants. Were the rule to decide their share of taxation alone, a contrary temptation would prevail. By extending the rule to both objects, the States will have opposite interests, which will control and balance each other, and produce the requisite impartiality.
And during the ratification debated, the following comments are made with regard to the rule of apportionment:
Pinckney addressing the S.C. ratification convention with regard to the rule of apportionment :
With regard to the general government imposing internal taxes upon us, he contended that it was absolutely necessary they should have such a power: requisitions had been in vain tried every year since the ratification of the old Confederation, and not a single state had paid the quota required of her. The general government could not abuse this power, and favor one state and oppress another, as each state was to be taxed only in proportion to its representation. 4 Elliots, S.C., 305-6
And see:
The proportion of taxes are fixed by the number of inhabitants, and not regulated by the extent of the territory, or fertility of soil3 Elliots, 243,Each state will know, from its population, its proportion of any general tax 3 Elliots, 244 ___ Mr. George Nicholas, during the ratification debates of our Constitution.
Mr. Madison goes on to remark about Congresss general power of taxation that, "they will be limited to fix the proportion of each State, and they must raise it in the most convenient and satisfactory manner to the public."3 Elliot, 255
And if there is any confusion about the rule of apportionment intentionally designed to insure that the people of each state are guaranteed a proportional vote in Congress equal to their contribution, Mr. PENDLETON says:
The apportionment of representation and taxation by the same scale is just; it removes the objection, that, while Virginia paid one sixth part of the expenses of the Union, she had no more weight in public counsels than Delaware, which paid but a very small portion3 Elliots 41
Having stated the above, I do support Congress raising its revenue from taxing consumption, but only as our Founders intended under our Constitutions ORIGINAL TAX PLAN
JWK
Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to Americas future Prosperity ___ from Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan,no longer in print.
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