Posted on 12/26/2013 10:12:33 AM PST by Fawn
It is important to note that the only person to see and authenticate the long form birth certificate of one President Barrack H. Obama is now dead in a plane crash. Even more controversial is the one that they submitted as truth on the Whitehouse.gov website is 10 layered in Photo Shop and thought to be fake. The conspiracy never seems to die.
Now a whistle blower comes forward and claims she forged Obamas birth certificate in 1985. She doesnt just claim that she did the long form, but the short form as well. Both those claims if proven are enough to make people worry about who really is our President.
Funny how this person is not only a family member but also insists she did it for the drug cartels in Mexico. Fast and Furious and the Federal Court ruling to include drugs and child smuggling make more sense now.
Here’s an article, from http://www.usps.org/education/files/other_20_handout.pdf , that talks about the reasons for fatalities with people wearing life jackets. “Mouth drowning” - which is what would have had to happen with Fuddy - happens over an extended period of time. Not half an hour (and that’s giving Fuddy ZERO time to drift 200 yards). Sorry for the formatting on this. It must not have transferred to html.
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The Other 20% —
When Wearing a Life Jacket
Is Not Enough
By CDR Kim Pickens, U. S. Coast Guard Reserve
Operation BoatSmart Project Officer
Boating accident statistics show that drowning
is the single biggest cause of death in
recreational boating accidents, accounting for more than 70% of boating deaths. The
great majority of these drownings were precipitated by unexpected
entry into the water,
which means the victim had no time to grab a life jacket before entering the water. Our
data also show that over 80% of drowning victims were NOT wearing life jackets when
found. We know from other data that most of those victims could have been saved had
they been wearing a life jacket before the mishap occurred.
But, you ask, what happened to the other 20%, the ones who were
wearing life jackets,
but drowned anyway? How come they
drowned? Those are good questions, and they
deserve an honest answer. There are actually several
reasons why persons wearing life
jackets occasionally drown.
A significant number of these drowning victims were paddlers, such as canoeists and
kayakers. Now canoeists and, even more so, kayakers
, actually have a pretty good PFD
wear rate, at least compared with most other boating populations.
However, paddlers also have a few things that work against them if they should have a
mishap. Paddlers tend to boat in remote areas, far from rescue resources or help from
passersby. They frequently paddle alone or with only one other person, and the vessels
they use are by design relatively unstable and prone to frequent capsizings. And
paddlers are particularly at risk for a dangerous situation called entrapment.
Entrapment occurs when the vessel or the boater becomes snagged on rocks or debris
at some hazardous point, then goes under due to the severe hydraulics of the water, and
the boater is either unable to escape the craft or unable to escape the hydraulic
pressures on him or her. The boater is unable
to escape the forces on him/her no
matter what kind of PFD the boater has on, and the resulting cause of death would be
drowning.
Other causes of drowning while wearing life jackets generally involve some sort of injury
or impairment that, by itself, doesn’t kill the boater, but is severe enough to prevent him
or her to do those things necessary to keep the boaters face out of the water or prevent
what we call “mouth immersions” from restricting the victims airway over time.
A person who gets hit in the head by some object on land may fall to the ground
unconscious. When that person wakes up, he or she can then seek medical attention
with no other harm done. If that same person gets hit the same way and lands in the
water instead, it’s a very different story.
Wearing a PFD that turns the unconscious victim face up is one way to avoid that
problem, and, unfortunately, most of the more comfortable PFDs those labeled as
Type III or some Type V PFDs
will not turn an unconscious victim face up, at least not
consistently. What most such PFDs will
do (all but manually-activated inflatables) is
bring the person, whether unconscious or not, back up to the surface, which enables
those nearby to quickly bring the victim to safety. Unfortunately, it sometimes happens
(not very often) that no one is nearby to help the unconscious victim, and the end result
is drowning.
The Other 20% — When Wearing a Life Jacket Is Not Enough (continued)
I mentioned mouth immersions earlier. Once a boater is in the water, waves
continuously splashing over the victims mouth cause a small amount of water to be
ingested, some of which may enter the lungs. The more forcefully and completely the
waves cover the mouth and nose, the more water is ingested. These are called mouth
immersions. There may be injuries or circumstances that make it difficult for a boater,
especially over time
, to prevent mouth immersions even while wearing a PFD.
Eventually those mouth immersions do the same thing as having the boater’s face in the
water: they eventually cause the boater to drown. It is an awful and terribly protracted
way to die, but it does happen.
No
PFD, not even a SOLAS-certified PFD, can prevent all mouth immersions. Mouth
immersions will happen; it is the frequency
with which they occur in a specific PFD
model that is a major factor in determining the classification of the PFD being tested and
whether or not the Coast Guard can approve that PFD for wear.
Those are the primary reasons boaters wearing life jackets sometimes drown. Either the
boater is unable to free him- or herself from some type of entrapment, is unconscious or
otherwise unable to keep his/her face out of the water, or eventually drowns from
numerous mouth immersions over a prolonged period of time.
We know that the greatest cause of death among boaters is drowning due to unexpected
entry into the water. And since you as a boater dont know when that entry might
happen, the time you need to have your jacket on is before you ever get on the boat!
But we also know that boaters in general HATE wearing life jackets, because they know
how hot and uncomfortable those stupid PFDs are! Is that what you think, too? Ah, but
things have changed in the last ten years! If you havent done so already, you really
need to take a look at todays life jackets, because many of the styles available today
are so attractive, so practical, and really and truly comfortable, you may be very
pleasantly surprised! You may have to go to a specialty store or shop online to find one
that even you
could be coaxed into wearing, but they are
available, many at prices that
are very reasonable.
Once you find one that youll wear
, its also extremely important that you keep it securely
fastened while you have it on. Otherwise, the scenario we frequently see in fatality
reports goes something like this: the victim has a life jacket on but not secured; the
victim falls into the water; the victims body goes under the water while the jacket
remains on the surface, and the jacket immediately slips off or separates from the victim,
and the victim drowns. Avoid an untimely separation between your life jacket and YOU:
make sure youre securely buckled, zippered or otherwise strapped into that thing!
Can we always
prevent people who wear PFDs from drowning? No, and I hope the
explanations given here answer any concerns you may have about their effectiveness.
Wearing a life jacket whenever you are out on the water is by far the single best thing
you can do
to prevent drowning.
Just remember, its not the life jacket
that saves lives; its you and me wearing
them that
saves lives! Boat smart from the start WEAR your life jacket!
_____________
The beforeitsnews link referred to comments made by Schuman specifically on Dec 20, where he revealed that he had had divers checking up on the wreckage during those days that the NTSB didn’t have the wreckage secured. I was looking and couldn’t find those specific comments that the beforeitsnews site referenced. Could be on video and I can’t see video. Could be an article that’s since been scrubbed. It would be nice if whoever posted that on beforeitsnews would have provided a link to substantiate the claim. If anybody can find that specific link it would be a great help.
There is the hope that your motherbnoard will go out to lunch.
Excellent source:
“Eventually those mouth immersions do the same thing as having the boaters face in the
water: they eventually cause the boater to drown. It is an awful and terribly protracted
way to die, but it does happen.”
And that can’t happen in such a short period of time, part of which Yamamoto was holding her hand.
The difference between a bouyancy vest and a lifejacket/preserver is that a LIFEJACKET/PRESERVER IS MANDATED TO BE SUPPLIED ON AIRCRAFT FLYING OVER WATER.
A bouancyvest is more commonly used by sports people and would be totally unacceptable on an aircraft.
If drowning was the cause of death, there will be evidence of water in her lungs, and someone has to answer how her head ended up under water wearing a life-preserving jacket.
Was the jacket faulty? Incorrectly worn? Not correctly inflated?
It’s dour people like you who take all the Christmas fun out of a good old fashioned conspiracy theory.
Why me? I knew that. You should have replied to whomever said there was PShop in 85. Or just replied to the poster of the article.
Good Grief!
If we don’t know how Fuddy died at this point (and we don’t) then we can’t rule out foul play. I.e.: it’s impossible to say we don’t know what killed her while at the same time excluding even the possibility of foul play.
I’m not sure what it is that you struggle with.
Dear editor-surveyor,
I remember you from way back.
TROLL
methinks you would be much happier over at fogbow with Nancy
Me thinks you’ve skipped a few capsules.
http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=10243
Post subject: Nancy Ruth OwensPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:44 am
Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:53 pm
Posts: 15270 As many of you know, she joined Fogbow as PablosWhiteRabbit a while back, and last night she finally posted a new thread to announce the creation of her new website.
It wasn’t off-topic. She’s not a spammer. She’s a crazy person, and she may actually believe what she’s saying. So I approved the post and put her in FEMA Camp 7½, and welcomed her to the forum.
I suggest you don’t engage with her, and I’d be disappointed if anyone gets abusive toward her. However, she’s not banned and she’s free to express her rather, umm ... unorthodox ... views about the provenance of the President of the United States of America. She just can’t post anywhere but in the FEMA camp.
For those new to the board, if you’d like access to the FEMA camp as staff or as a visitor (in other words, if you’d like to see that forum and post on threads by trolls and birthers), you have to join the usergroup in your User Control Panel. I’d also like to remind those who are new that you can see the sports threads if you join the Sports Fans usergroup.
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If you give that crazy woman any credibility, it’s you that skipped a few capsules, my Friend.
I don’t agree w you about this woman, e-s. I think she is a deranged sociopath who is doing Obama far more good than harm. Otoh, I am speaking from experience when I say you are a rock solid conservative. I hope no one extrapolates from this one case to the point of imagining you somehow lean liberal in any way. As your posting history reveals, you are one of the most conservative participants on the site.
Just thought I’d put that out there, fwiw.
I think a persons memory is a very individual thing and varies for different persons depending upon the influences. I can remember names of college classmates and other persons going back 60 plus years.
Don’t you ever enjoy pulling these trolls strings?
I’ve never said foul play is impossible, only that there are numerous other causes which would seem a lot more likely. However, that’s not acceptable to certain conspiracy theorists, who think they can rule out any mundane explanation without actually doing any investigating beyond their computer chair.
I’ve got backups :P
created: 28-Aug-2013
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“It was one of the rare occasions when my half-brother Barry “Obama” Allen (Owens) Seotoro and I were in the same location. Is there a possible blood relationship of the Clewiston pharmacist to Chris “Stevens” of Benghazi? Was he a witness or heir to the earliest beginnings of the crack cocaine trade which Obama inherited? This I do not know. It may shock to learn that the man who now occupies the White House as president is a culmination of Griselda’s master plan set in motion in 1985. It is here, in the backwoods of Clewiston, that his goals to become president as representative of the Medellin Cartel and it was at this time that I forged his birth certificate.”
Phillips Milk of Magnesia.
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