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Runaway Stock Market: Thank Rising Margin Accounts and Fed Stimulus (NOT Falling Real Income)
Confounded Interest ^ | 11/26/2013 | Anthony B. Sanders

Posted on 11/26/2013 3:50:26 PM PST by whitedog57

What is driving the stock market to dizzying heights? Try stock margin accounts and Fed Monetary easing.

Here is a chart of NYSE Member Firms Debit Balances in Margin Accounts and the Standard and Poor’s Index.

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And here is a chart of the SPX against The Fed’s Balance Sheet size.

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You must admit, there seems to be a pattern here. Particularly since real median household income seems to be shrinking (although house prices are rising).

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Margin accounts + easy Fed money = bubbles.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: fed; inflation; margin; marginaccounts; stockmarket; stocks
Greenspan, Bernanke and Yellen still can't see it!
1 posted on 11/26/2013 3:50:27 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: whitedog57
And here is a chart

Where?

2 posted on 11/26/2013 3:56:21 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: whitedog57

We should thank someone for this impending disaster?

seriously?


3 posted on 11/26/2013 3:57:45 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: whitedog57

I stopped believing in Santa Clause and the stock market a long time ago. When the fairy dust from the Fed is cut off, the stock market is going crash worse than Humpty Dumpty


4 posted on 11/26/2013 3:58:15 PM PST by pallis
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To: whitedog57

The Dow will hit 10,000 before it hits 20,000


5 posted on 11/26/2013 4:01:14 PM PST by wny
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To: whitedog57
You must admit, there seems to be a pattern here.

Indeed.

Every day you steal some charts and try to direct traffic to your blog.

6 posted on 11/26/2013 4:02:27 PM PST by humblegunner
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8 posted on 11/26/2013 4:15:16 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: whitedog57
Whenever Obama is on the ropes investors take heart and the market rises.

It happened with the defeat of cap and trade, gun control, the extension of the Bush tax cuts and now Obamacare.

As Obama gets weaker the markets get stronger.

9 posted on 11/26/2013 4:23:16 PM PST by what's up
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To: whitedog57; All

Not sure why people are always shocked when the DJIA hits new highs.

The DJIA will always have a strong upward bias built in, as poor performing stocks are taken out of the index periodically and healthy, strong ones replace them. It happens this way but not the other way around.

That being known, the only direction of the market is up over time.


10 posted on 11/26/2013 4:28:56 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

as poor performing stocks are taken out of the index periodically and healthy, strong ones replace them.


I think part of the situation is we have money chasing fewer stocks. Lots of bankruptcy and very few new starts that I can see.


11 posted on 11/26/2013 4:31:43 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: PeterPrinciple

Fewer stocks was mentioned on one of the FOX business shows as a cause. The other factor mentioned is poor return on bonds.


12 posted on 11/26/2013 4:56:08 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: humblegunner

Ah, humblegunner. Free Republic’s self-appointed hall monitor is back on duty, protecting us children from those evil blogs! I can’t imagine what evil might befall us without your selfless devotion to our safety...


13 posted on 11/26/2013 5:17:31 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: whitedog57

14 posted on 11/26/2013 7:00:05 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: whitedog57

I am at 99% high growth stock in my 401k, Investing for 7 years. I compare it to a 30yr employee who is 75% bonds. My plan is nearly equal to half his account.

Why jump?


15 posted on 11/26/2013 7:18:36 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: Red in Blue PA
The DJIA will always have a strong upward bias built in, as poor performing stocks are taken out of the index periodically and healthy, strong ones replace them.

So when Navistar is removed in 1991, after falling 95% from it's peak, and replaced by a stock that performed better, that's an upward bias?

What about when GM goes bankrupt and is removed in 2009 and replaced by Cisco, that's an upward bias?

If they removed GM when it was at $50 and put in a stock that is about to take off, you might have a point. Pulling a stock out after it drops below $1 and then replacing it with a stock that had a better performance over the last few years might give it a downward bias.

What do you think?

16 posted on 11/26/2013 9:18:08 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: whitedog57

Bump for later


17 posted on 11/26/2013 9:29:41 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Always A Marine

Your safety has nothing to do with it.
Were I concerned with such, I’d post to you rather than to misbehaving bloggers.


18 posted on 11/27/2013 5:04:28 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: Cold Heart

poor return on bonds.


Not only poor return but RISK.


19 posted on 11/27/2013 7:52:42 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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