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Killing The "We Paid Our Taxes; We Earned Our Benefits" Social Security Ponzi Meme
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Posted on 11/23/2013 7:09:05 PM PST by ClaytonP

Submitted by Gary Galles of the Ludwig von Mises Institute,

“We paid our Social Security and Medicare taxes; we earned our benefits.” It is that belief among senior citizens that President Obama was pandering to when, in his second inaugural address, he claimed that those programs “strengthen us. They do not make us a nation of takers.”

If Social Security and Medicare both involved people voluntarily financing their own benefits, an argument could be made for seniors’ “earned benefits” view. But they have not. They have redistributed tens of trillions of dollars of wealth to themselves from those younger.

Social Security and Medicare have transferred those trillions because they have been partial Ponzi schemes.

After Social Security’s creation, those in or near retirement got benefits far exceeding their costs (Ida Mae Fuller, the first Social Security recipient, got 462 times what she and her employer together paid in “contributions”). Those benefits in excess of their taxes paid inherently forced future Americans to pick up the tab for the difference. And the program’s almost unthinkable unfunded liabilities are no less a burden on later generations because earlier generations financed some of their own benefits, or because the government has consistently lied that they have paid their own way.

Since its creation, Social Security has been expanded multiple times. Each expansion meant those already retired paid no added taxes, and those near retirement paid more for only a few years. But both groups received increased benefits throughout retirement, increasing the unfunded benefits whose burdens had to be borne by later generations. Thus, each such expansion started another Ponzi cycle benefiting older Americans at others’ expense.

Social Security benefits have been dramatically increased. They doubled between 1950 and 1952. They were raised 15 percent in 1970, 10 percent in 1971, and 20 percent in 1972, in a heated competition to buy the elderly vote. Benefits were tied to a measure that effectively double-counted inflation and even now, benefits are over-indexed to inflation, raising real benefit levels over time.

Disability and dependents’ benefits were added by 1960. Medicare was added in 1966, and benefits have been expanded (e.g., Medicare Part B, only one-quarter funded by recipients, and Part D’s prescription drug benefit, only one-eighth funded by recipients).

The massive expansion of Social Security is evident from the growing tax burden since its $60 per year initial maximum (for employees and employers combined). Tax rates have risen and been applied to more earnings, with Social Security now taking a combined 12.4 percent of earnings up to $113,700 (and Medicare’s 2.9 percent combined rate applies to all earnings, plus a 0.9 percent surtax beyond $200,000 of earnings).

Those multiple Ponzi giveaways to earlier recipients created Social Security’s 13-digit unfunded liability and Medicare’s far larger hole. And despite politicians’ repeated, heated denials, many studies have confirmed the results.

One recent study of lifetime payroll taxes and benefits comes from the Urban Institute. For Medicare, they calculated that (in 2012 dollars) an average-wage-earning male would get $180,000 in benefits, but pay only $61,000 in taxes — “earning” only about one-third of benefits received. A similarly situated female does even better. The cumulative “excess” benefits equal $105 trillion, with net benefits increasing over time.

The Urban Institute’s calculations revealed a different situation for Social Security. An average-earning male who retired in 2010 will receive $277,000 in lifetime benefits, $23,000 less than his lifetime taxes, while for females, their $302,000 in lifetime benefits approximates their lifetime taxes. And things are getting worse. By 2030, that man will be “shorted” 16 cents (10 cents for women) of every lifetime tax dollar paid.

While those results resoundingly reject “we earned it” rhetoric for Medicare, the Social Security results, with new retirees getting less than they paid in, could be spun as “proving” Social Security is not a Ponzi scheme. However, that would be false. The reason is that Medicare is still in its expansion phase, as with Medicare Part D, piling up still bigger future IOUs. However, Social Security has essentially run out of new expansion tricks, although liberal groups are pushing to apply Social Security taxes to far more income as one last means of robbing those younger to delay the day of reckoning. That simply means that we are being forced to start facing the full consequences of the redistribution that was started in 1935. That is, the current bad deal Social Security offers retirees is just the result of the fact that it has been a Ponzi scheme for generations, and someone must get stuck “holding the bag.”

In fact, perhaps the best description of the current Social Security and Medicare situation comes from Henry Hazlitt, long ago, in Economics in One Lesson:

Today is already the tomorrow which the bad economist yesterday urged us to ignore. The long-run consequences of some economic policies may become evident in a few months. Others may not become evident for several years. Still others may not become evident for decades. But in every case those long-run consequences are contained in the policy as surely as the hen was in the egg, the flower in the seed.

Social Security and Medicare’s generational high-jacking has become “the third rail of politics” in large part because seniors want to believe that they paid their own way. But they have not. They have only paid for part of what they have gotten. The rest has indeed been a Ponzi scheme. And as Social Security is already revealing, the future cannot be put off forever, however much wishful thinking is involved. Some are already being forced to confront the exploding pot of IOUs involved, and it will get much worse.

The supposedly “most successful government program in the history of the world,” according to Harry Reid, has turned seniors into serious takers. The fact that some of them are now starting to share the pain caused by those programs does not contradict that fact. It just shows the dark side of the most successful Ponzi scheme in the history of the world.



TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: ageism; brokenrecord; deathpanels; greedygeezer; itsmine; medicare; socialsecurity
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1 posted on 11/23/2013 7:09:05 PM PST by ClaytonP
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To: ClaytonP
"even now, benefits are over-indexed to inflation, raising real benefit levels over time."

Current Gov't calcuflucklations of inflation DO NOT COVER MY BASKET OF GOODS!

2 posted on 11/23/2013 7:13:36 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ClaytonP

That’s OK. The Obamacare Death Panels will fix this.

“Who’s happy about Obamacare? Everybody who’s happy about Obamacare jump up high! Oh....Mrs. Schmedlap.......you didn’t jump very high......how disappointing. Please take Mrs. Schmedlap to The Shirkers Van. No, she won’t be needing to take her medicine with her. Now, everybody who’s happy about President Hillary jump up high!”


3 posted on 11/23/2013 7:20:46 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ClaytonP

You can NOT use Karl Marx’s ideas to help the middle class or capitalism.

Every single one of Marx’s ideas from Labor Unions to Retirement benefits was geared towards DESTROYING the middle class and capitalism.


4 posted on 11/23/2013 7:20:51 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: ClaytonP

Look at it as your entry fee into the most prosperous nation in the history of the world. We all had to pay it too. Now get out there and make us proud.


5 posted on 11/23/2013 7:23:30 PM PST by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: ClaytonP
Don't worry, Obamacare will cure the need to payout Social Security benefits.

"sorry Mr Doe, the computer says your prognosis is 100% fatal, treatment is not logical at your age, we can however relieve your suffering and provide End of Life Care at no additional cost to society"

6 posted on 11/23/2013 7:27:10 PM PST by KTM rider
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To: Paladin2
I saw an article by Tom Sowell a few days ago to the same effect - that we haven't earned our Social Security benefits. Total BS in my opinion. I've had FICA and Medicare taxes deducted from my paychecks for a half-century. After having given up many thousands of dollars in FICA taxes over the years, I have never received a dollar of benefits from Medicare, and at 66 years of age I have just received my first Social Security check.

A funny thing - it's taxable income! It was taken from me as a tax starting 50 years ago and now when they "give it back" they're taxing it again! Where the Hell do they get off?

We have earned it - in spades! Had we not been required to pay it in - and if our employers not been required to pay like amounts, those dollars would have come to us and we could have made our own use of them - to spend or save as we saw fit.

It's our money! We generate the wealth in this country and elsewhere - not the government! All they do is tax it and waste it on useless social programs that advance their leftist agenda.



"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

7 posted on 11/23/2013 7:29:32 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3/5 Marines RVN 196<font size=4><b>9 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ClaytonP

Seniors are the most anti-liberal voting age group, and the under 30s are so hard left that they voted for Obama by 66% in 2008, something that we had never seen before, ever.

Social Security reform requires that people quit voting democrat, and the seniors are already there.


8 posted on 11/23/2013 7:30:05 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ConorMacNessa

Well, I’d suggest that you have at least a few years of contributions (and gains on same) to be refunded.


9 posted on 11/23/2013 7:31:19 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ClaytonP

Um, yep.


10 posted on 11/23/2013 7:31:23 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: ConorMacNessa

That’s why it’s clearly a ‘rat/GOPe PONZI scheme.


11 posted on 11/23/2013 7:32:43 PM PST by Paladin2
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Well, I’d suggest that you have at least a few years of contributions (and gains on same) to be refunded.

Abolish SS and I'll take my refund for 56 years of coerced payments with one stipulation: I want it in inflation-adjusted dollars, not the current enormously devalued Monopoly money.

12 posted on 11/23/2013 7:45:45 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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I’m planning now for life without Social Security and Medicare 20 years from now. I don’t want to have to depend on gov’t to change my diapers when I get old.


13 posted on 11/23/2013 7:47:56 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: Bernard Marx
I'm down with that.

Take it out of Congress' pay, fringes, pensions and "leadership PACS".

14 posted on 11/23/2013 7:48:49 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Bernard Marx

Yep. I’ll take it in junk silver. One dollar on the dollar.


15 posted on 11/23/2013 7:51:38 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Bernard Marx
Amen to that, FRiend!



"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!"

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

16 posted on 11/23/2013 7:51:44 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3/5 Marines RVN 196<font size=4><b>9 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ClaytonP
Disclaimer I get both SS and VA benefits...

In 1935 the SS system was set up with the idea that most would never live to collect very much of what they paid in. Once it was law the politicians forgot about the basic idea..as life span increased the age of SS eligibility should have increased a pace.

Many on the right argue that SS is forced, which it is, and if everybody could just have the freedom to invest they would have far more at retirement.

The problem with this argument, and the reason legislators in a rare grasp of reality, faced the fact that 80% or more of the American people irregardless of political ideology are dead beats at heart.

17 posted on 11/23/2013 7:52:39 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: ClaytonP

feel free to give it up.


18 posted on 11/23/2013 7:52:49 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: ClaytonP

Every time anyone mentioned the problems with Social Security the Democrats led by Ted Kennedy would come out roaring like the MGM lion. “The Republicans are taking away your Social Security”. I remember this going back to at least the 1980’s. Tommorrow is now today and no one wants to fix the Social Security problem.


19 posted on 11/23/2013 7:52:58 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: ClaytonP
I am not planning on receiving Social Security. I think anyone who is planning to have it for retirement is deluded.

I will be happy to have any savings left after the government gets through destroying its value through Weimar Republic style inflation.

I know intelligent people who say that could never happen today.

20 posted on 11/23/2013 8:06:55 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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