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“Big proponent” of Obamacare is “surprised” that his family’s premium and deductible went up
wordpress ^ | November 6, 2013 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 11/06/2013 1:08:18 PM PST by grundle

Self described “big proponent” of Obamacare says he is “surprised” that his family’s premium and deductible went up

KQED reports:

The notice from Kaiser came in the mail about ten days ago.

Luke Donavan’s health insurance premiums were going up. A lot.

Donavan, 41 of San Francisco, is self-employed and buys his own health insurance. Currently he pays $841 per month for insurance for himself, his wife and three young children. But, Kaiser is canceling that policy and offering him a new one that fully complies with the Affordable Care Act. Effective Jan. 1, his family’s premium is going up to $1,000, with a higher deductible.

Donavan says he voted for Obama in both elections and calls himself a “big proponent” of the health law. He has a pretty calm demeanor and says he was “surprised” by this news from Kaiser.

“I just keep coming back to the name ‘Affordable Care Act,’” he said. “I thought I’d pay the same or less for better coverage.”

Mr. Donavan is self employed, seems to earn a good living, and had the common sense to buy a good health insurance polocy for this family. So he’s probably pretty intelligent.

But – he voted for Obama in both elections, supports Obamacare, and is surprised that Obamacare caused his premiums to go up. Those things suggest that he’s not intelligent at all.

Why is it that people who are otherwise highly intelligent support Obamacare?

Why would someone who is smart enough to support himself by starting his own business, simultaneously be so dumb that he’s actually surprised that government interference in something would make that thing more expensive?

Here’s another article about a different family. Pro Publica reports:

San Francisco architect Lee Hammack says he and his wife, JoEllen Brothers, are “cradle Democrats.” They have donated to the liberal group Organizing for America and worked the phone banks a year ago for President Obama’s re-election.

Since 1995, Hammack and Brothers have received their health coverage from Kaiser Permanente, where Brothers worked until 2009 as a dietitian and diabetes educator. “We’ve both been in very good health all of our lives – exercise, don’t smoke, drink lightly, healthy weight, no health issues, and so on,” Hammack told me.

The couple — Lee, 60, and JoEllen, 59 — have been paying $550 a month for their health coverage — a plan that offers solid coverage, not one of the skimpy plans Obama has criticized. But recently, Kaiser informed them the plan would be canceled at the end of the year because it did not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act. The couple would need to find another one. The cost would be around double what they pay now, but the benefits would be worse.

They do not qualify for premium subsidies because they make more than four times the federal poverty level.

The letters said the couple would be enrolled in new Kaiser plans that would cost nearly $1,300 a month.

And for that higher amount, what would they get? A higher deductible, a higher out-of-pocket maximum, higher hospital costs, and possibly higher costs for doctor visits and drugs.

So, Mr. Hammack’s premiums have gone up, and his benefits have gone down.

Surely, he must have changed his mind about supporting Obamacare. After all, he is an architect, so he must be good with math and logic. He must be intelligent enough to realize that Obamacare is a fraud.

But no, he hasn’t changed his mind. He still supports Obamacare.

However, Mr. Hammack did say that he wants an exemption for himself. The same article from Pro Publica continues:

He’s written to California’s senators and his representative, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., asking for help.

“We believe that the Act is good for health care, the economy, & the future of our nation. However, ACA options for middle income individuals ages 59 & 60 are unaffordable. We’re learning that many others are similarly affected. In that spirit we ask that you fix this, for all of our sakes,” he and Brothers wrote.

He still supports Obamacare – but wants an exemption for himself.

Does Mr. Hammack really think that Nancy Pelosi is going care about his situation?

Obamacare has already been passed by Congress and signed by the President. Why should Nancy Pelosi care how much it hurts Mr. Hammack?

In reference to both of the above articles, Mr. Donavan and Mr. Hammack both blindly supported the passage of a 2,600 page bill that no one had read. And now – more than three years after the law was passed – they have the nerve to act surprised at what is actually in the law?

The opponents of Obamacare have been talking about this “rate shock” since before Obamacare was even passed. So how can these two people claim to be surprised that their rates have gone up?



TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: abortion; california; deathpanels; joellenbrothers; leehammack; obamacare; sanfrancisco; zerocare
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1 posted on 11/06/2013 1:08:18 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Not the kind of CHANGE you were HOPING for, was it?


2 posted on 11/06/2013 1:10:42 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: grundle

suckers....


3 posted on 11/06/2013 1:10:50 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: grundle
“I just keep coming back to the name ‘Affordable Care Act,’” he said. “I thought I’d pay the same or less for better coverage.”

Hate it for you.

4 posted on 11/06/2013 1:12:20 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: grundle
Self described “big proponent” of Obamacare says he is “surprised” that his family’s premium and deductible went up

No.....no he wasn't.

5 posted on 11/06/2013 1:13:06 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: grundle

This makes me happy.


6 posted on 11/06/2013 1:14:53 PM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: grundle

I have zero sympathy for them. They were warned well in advance and still chose to support this festering pile of pus.


7 posted on 11/06/2013 1:16:20 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: grundle

They support it in order to feel morally superior.
That’s worth paying the increased premiums.


8 posted on 11/06/2013 1:17:20 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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9 posted on 11/06/2013 1:19:38 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: grundle

Hey butt heads...how’s that hope and c hange working out for you now???


10 posted on 11/06/2013 1:20:50 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: thefactor

Indeed.

No one with a working brain could possibly have believed that you could cover a lot more people, with a lot more benefits, and with far fewer restrictions, and have it cost less.

And this is just the beginning of the costs of Obamacare...


11 posted on 11/06/2013 1:21:51 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: grundle

Arrogance and stupidity all in the same breathe. Arrogance that the Messiah and his Obamadontcare is Grande and Stupidity for not having a freaking clue.


12 posted on 11/06/2013 1:22:33 PM PST by oust the louse (The Democratic Party might as well be called the Death Party. Abortion & ObamaCare/death panels.)
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To: grundle

Typical leftist wanting everyone else but him to be screwed by leftwing policies.


13 posted on 11/06/2013 1:23:11 PM PST by RginTN
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To: grundle

LMMFAO!

I hope the change gets much, much worse for them.

Enjoy!


14 posted on 11/06/2013 1:25:18 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: grundle

“I thought I’d pay the same or less for better coverage.”

And who did you think was going to pick up the slack for you? After your pity party for yourself maybe give some thought to the myriad of others you’ve harmed financially with you asinine idea.


15 posted on 11/06/2013 1:26:11 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: grundle
"I thought I’d pay the same or less for better coverage.”

"I thought it was weird that the doctor had both of his hands on my shoulders during my prostate exam...luckily, I have a calm demeanor."

16 posted on 11/06/2013 1:27:35 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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"We believe that the Act is good for health care, the economy, & the future of our nation..."

This architect cannot be possibly good at math or logic - he certainly has no idea about economics. Who in their right mind would employ such a head-in-the-clouds nincompoop?

17 posted on 11/06/2013 1:27:42 PM PST by PuzzledInTX
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To: COBOL2Java

lol


18 posted on 11/06/2013 1:29:04 PM PST by GeronL
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To: grundle
He’s written to California’s senators and his representative, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., asking for help.

That letter's going straight into Pelosi's circular file cabinet.

19 posted on 11/06/2013 1:32:08 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: DannyTN

Well I heard Obama say that insurance would cost about the same as a cell phone bill....the difference is I know he lies.


20 posted on 11/06/2013 1:42:17 PM PST by sheana
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