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“Big proponent” of Obamacare is “surprised” that his family’s premium and deductible went up
wordpress ^ | November 6, 2013 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 11/06/2013 1:08:18 PM PST by grundle

Self described “big proponent” of Obamacare says he is “surprised” that his family’s premium and deductible went up

KQED reports:

The notice from Kaiser came in the mail about ten days ago.

Luke Donavan’s health insurance premiums were going up. A lot.

Donavan, 41 of San Francisco, is self-employed and buys his own health insurance. Currently he pays $841 per month for insurance for himself, his wife and three young children. But, Kaiser is canceling that policy and offering him a new one that fully complies with the Affordable Care Act. Effective Jan. 1, his family’s premium is going up to $1,000, with a higher deductible.

Donavan says he voted for Obama in both elections and calls himself a “big proponent” of the health law. He has a pretty calm demeanor and says he was “surprised” by this news from Kaiser.

“I just keep coming back to the name ‘Affordable Care Act,’” he said. “I thought I’d pay the same or less for better coverage.”

Mr. Donavan is self employed, seems to earn a good living, and had the common sense to buy a good health insurance polocy for this family. So he’s probably pretty intelligent.

But – he voted for Obama in both elections, supports Obamacare, and is surprised that Obamacare caused his premiums to go up. Those things suggest that he’s not intelligent at all.

Why is it that people who are otherwise highly intelligent support Obamacare?

Why would someone who is smart enough to support himself by starting his own business, simultaneously be so dumb that he’s actually surprised that government interference in something would make that thing more expensive?

Here’s another article about a different family. Pro Publica reports:

San Francisco architect Lee Hammack says he and his wife, JoEllen Brothers, are “cradle Democrats.” They have donated to the liberal group Organizing for America and worked the phone banks a year ago for President Obama’s re-election.

Since 1995, Hammack and Brothers have received their health coverage from Kaiser Permanente, where Brothers worked until 2009 as a dietitian and diabetes educator. “We’ve both been in very good health all of our lives – exercise, don’t smoke, drink lightly, healthy weight, no health issues, and so on,” Hammack told me.

The couple — Lee, 60, and JoEllen, 59 — have been paying $550 a month for their health coverage — a plan that offers solid coverage, not one of the skimpy plans Obama has criticized. But recently, Kaiser informed them the plan would be canceled at the end of the year because it did not meet the requirements of the Affordable Care Act. The couple would need to find another one. The cost would be around double what they pay now, but the benefits would be worse.

They do not qualify for premium subsidies because they make more than four times the federal poverty level.

The letters said the couple would be enrolled in new Kaiser plans that would cost nearly $1,300 a month.

And for that higher amount, what would they get? A higher deductible, a higher out-of-pocket maximum, higher hospital costs, and possibly higher costs for doctor visits and drugs.

So, Mr. Hammack’s premiums have gone up, and his benefits have gone down.

Surely, he must have changed his mind about supporting Obamacare. After all, he is an architect, so he must be good with math and logic. He must be intelligent enough to realize that Obamacare is a fraud.

But no, he hasn’t changed his mind. He still supports Obamacare.

However, Mr. Hammack did say that he wants an exemption for himself. The same article from Pro Publica continues:

He’s written to California’s senators and his representative, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., asking for help.

“We believe that the Act is good for health care, the economy, & the future of our nation. However, ACA options for middle income individuals ages 59 & 60 are unaffordable. We’re learning that many others are similarly affected. In that spirit we ask that you fix this, for all of our sakes,” he and Brothers wrote.

He still supports Obamacare – but wants an exemption for himself.

Does Mr. Hammack really think that Nancy Pelosi is going care about his situation?

Obamacare has already been passed by Congress and signed by the President. Why should Nancy Pelosi care how much it hurts Mr. Hammack?

In reference to both of the above articles, Mr. Donavan and Mr. Hammack both blindly supported the passage of a 2,600 page bill that no one had read. And now – more than three years after the law was passed – they have the nerve to act surprised at what is actually in the law?

The opponents of Obamacare have been talking about this “rate shock” since before Obamacare was even passed. So how can these two people claim to be surprised that their rates have gone up?



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KEYWORDS: abortion; california; deathpanels; joellenbrothers; leehammack; obamacare; sanfrancisco; zerocare
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To: grundle
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

If you voted for it. You deserve it!

21 posted on 11/06/2013 1:50:21 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: grundle

Unless I read ‘and I’m never voting for a DemocRat again,’ every time a liberal sees the evidence, then the story is meaningless and a waste of time.


22 posted on 11/06/2013 1:53:24 PM PST by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: grundle

” Donavan says he voted for Obama in both elections and calls himself a “big proponent” of the health law.”

To put it more succinctly, he’s too stupid for words.


23 posted on 11/06/2013 2:04:06 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

They are all unmitigated hypocrites. Not only that they are sniveling snakes trying to get something for themselves that they care dittely doo happens to/for other people. Typical liberals that will take their reward for being good followers of the political power brokers. They care not what they want means less for others.


24 posted on 11/06/2013 2:04:45 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: grundle
So how can these two people claim to be surprised that their rates have gone up?

Simple. They're liberals. And liberalism is a mental disease.

25 posted on 11/06/2013 2:05:15 PM PST by upchuck (I've got maternity care via Obamacare! Now, if I could just figure out how a male gets pregnant...)
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To: grundle
Voting commie in 2016...

"I guarantee it."

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26 posted on 11/06/2013 2:05:39 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: MrB

“cradle Democrats.”

Yes. They support it in order to feel morally superior. In this case, they stress they were BORN morally superior. Take THAT Dems who waited til grade school to discover the saintly Brahmin class of liberalism!


27 posted on 11/06/2013 2:12:04 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: grundle

>> Why would someone who is smart enough to support himself by starting his own business, simultaneously be so dumb that he’s actually surprised that government interference in something would make that thing more expensive?

It’s Kalifornia. There’s something in the water that makes them like that — as balmy as the weather.


28 posted on 11/06/2013 2:17:34 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: grundle

“I just keep coming back to the name ‘Affordable Care Act,’” he said. “I thought I’d pay the same or less for better coverage.”

Suck it up, beyotch. Suck it up.


29 posted on 11/06/2013 2:19:42 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

That phrase you keep coming back to.
I do not think it means what you think it means...


30 posted on 11/06/2013 2:20:51 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: grundle

Dumber than a sack of hammers.


31 posted on 11/06/2013 2:28:41 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: TalBlack

2025 A.D.: “But officer, there must be some mistake...I’ve voted for Great Leader all four times since 2008...Surely there’s room on the heart surgery list for me?”

Death Panel Officer: “Your application is denied. You may receive a personal re-assessment for a nominal fee of 50,000 Galactics. Now get out!”


32 posted on 11/06/2013 2:32:25 PM PST by steerpike100
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To: grundle
“I just keep coming back to the name ‘Affordable Care Act,’” he said. “I thought I’d pay the same or less for better coverage.”

Wowzer.

This tells us why Democraps spend so much time coming up with phoney baloney names like, "Affirmative action," when they mean discrimination.

We need to use our own names, like "Obamacare," rather than "the Affordable Care Act."

33 posted on 11/06/2013 2:35:38 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: grundle
He still supports Obamacare – but wants an exemption for himself.

I can't take reading much more of this. God help us!

34 posted on 11/06/2013 2:39:34 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: grundle

“I thought I’d pay the same or less for better coverage.”

Very funny.


35 posted on 11/06/2013 2:43:49 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: All
They both supported it because they thought the “rich” would pay for it.

They just forgot to get the (D) version of the definition for rich...:^)

36 posted on 11/06/2013 2:56:00 PM PST by az_gila
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To: grundle
He’s written to California’s senators and his representative, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., asking for help.

Mr. Hammack: "Ms. Pelosi, what can you do for me?"

Ms. Pelosi: "Turn around, drop trou, bend over, grab ankles, I'll drive - and BTW, YOU have to pay for the Vaseline ..."

37 posted on 11/06/2013 3:02:47 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: grundle

Ha, ha! Bend over Luke, here it comes again!


38 posted on 11/06/2013 3:14:51 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: deadrock

Dude, they’d still pull that D lever even if the story was “I was all for the boxcars, I just didn’t expect I’d be put in one”...

Gotta scramble a few eggs for that utopia...


39 posted on 11/06/2013 3:17:18 PM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“I can’t take reading much more of this. God help us! “

Usually this far down in the thread someone points out that it’s satire. I’m starting to think it’s for real...


40 posted on 11/06/2013 4:20:30 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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