"If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what." --Dr. Ob, June 15, 2009
Posted on 10/31/2013 7:45:32 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
"If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what." --Dr. Ob, June 15, 2009
The impact of Obamacare is starting to hit the DUmmies. And not all of them are pleased. Employers are canceling health insurance for their workers. People are having to pay higher premiums. People are having to meet higher deductibles. And this is not going over well with all the denizens of the DUmp. My gosh, who could have predicted that these things would be happening????
Who could have predicted all this? Why, WE did, you stupid DUmmies! We TOLD you this would happen, way back when. But did you listen? NO-OOOO!!! You went and voted for the Moron-in-Chief and his co-moron accomplices. And so this is what you get. Enjoy!
The whining and moaning continues apace in DUmmieland. And when one of the DUmmies dares to lay this debacle at the doorstop of Our President, the circular firing squad steps forward to shoot down the heretic. It's FUn to watch!! Witness this THREAD, "Companies' cancellation of existing health insurance policies continues."
So let us now travel to the Land of DUmmies, where reality is an unwelcome guest and all the comments are in Bolshevik Red, while the commentary of your humble guest correspondent, Charles Henrickson--wondering if the DUmmies are out in their pumpkin patches tonight, waiting for the Great Pumpkin to arrive--is in the [Barackets]:
Companies' cancellation of existing health insurance policies continues
[Who could have seen this coming??? I'm SHOCKED!!]
It's now hitting the news more often and the nation will soon be much more widely aware of it.
[Prepare for even greater sticker shock come January.]
The cancellation of existing policies is spreading around the country, as insurance companies seem to be using ACA as an excuse/reason for cancelling existing policies and offering their former customers a choice -- pay higher premium for new policies or bye-bye.
[Wha-- WHAT?? I can't believe this is happening!!]
This isn't Obama-hate and crap like that. This is real stuff actually happening to hundreds of thousands of people (300,000+ in California alone), soon to be millions nationwide.
[DO NOT BRING UP REAL STUFF! Real stuff is too disturbing.]
It directly contradicts what the President said about people keeping their existing policies. This has nothing to do with any GOP troublemaking. It's a real event.
[Say, DUmmie hooverville29, you with your whopping 91 posts, why are you bringing up these things anyway? Hmmm. . . .]
The White House is going to have to face it and get a handle on where they are on the issue.
[When in doubt, blame the Republicans.]
Again, it's really there.
[OK, DUmmie hooverville29, we get your point! So let's hear from your fellow DUmmies . . .]
Pointing out that the Insurance Industry was and continues to be the problem.
[I thought it was the Rethuglicans. . . . OK, same difference.]
Yep. Not saying wheels are coming off, but it's not good.
[Wheels of Misfortune.]
Did the insurance companies betray Obama?
[They betrayed Obamassiah for thirty pieces of silver. Obamassiah is an innocent victim here.]
Anybody know what's really going on?
[Does anybody really care?]
Looks like the counry will be moving to single payer faster than anyone ever thought.
[The end goal.]
It'll never pass this Congress or the next. Even if the Dems keep the Senate, remember the 60 vote rule? Odds are the GOP will squeak by in the House, if for no reason other than the usual mid-term result. Anyhow, it's really unlikely we could get the legislation.
[Boy, DUmmie hooverville29, you're being a real DUmmie Downer. I'm having my suspicions about you. . . .]
This law helps the eternally stupid by not allowing insurance companies to sell them sh*tty non insurance.
[What if people LIKED their "sh*tty non-insurance," and now they're sh*t out of luck?]
This was done very clumsily and doesn't make the Prez look good in the eyes of many ordinary who simply took what he said to mean what the words ordinarily mean. Unfortunately, that won't keep it from really pissing off a lot of people who did take what the President said at face value and now have to pay higher premiums, which contradicts another expectation most have -- ACA won't make my insurance cost more, etc. For some, it will, and there will be a political price to pay for that, like it or not.
[It's THEIR fault for believing what the President had to say! He couldn't help it if he had to lie in order to get the bill passed and then get re-elected! Oh, and by the way, DUmmie hooverville29, you are REALLY starting to get on our nerves! You keep bringing up these problems! Stop it!]
Disapproval is going up (back to 50+% levels)and so is approval (42%) as undecideds decide where they are. This one has a tough row to hoe.
[I predict the hoes will approve.]
Is it rolled out? No! Not one person has started on insurance through exchanges. People are sheep. They are going off of vague info they are hearing. When people are signed up through 2014 and the other pieces kick in fully, this will be a VERY popular program. Right now, low information people are listening to morons.
[Less take-home pay, worse benefits, higher premiums, higher deductibles--posh and piffle! This is just VAGUE INFO that the sheep are hearing! So it's showing up in statements from their employers and insurance companies! Big deal! It's not really happening! Think HAPPY thoughts! Obamacare gonna HELP us! Obamacare gonna make all thing right! Greedy insurance companies! Greedy corporations! Obamacare VERY popular program! VERY popular!! Baaa! Baaa!]
It's that kind of elitist contempt for ordinary people that can cause real problems down the road. Those 'morons' and 'low intelligence' people are American citizens who vote. . . .
[OK, that cuts it, DUmmie hooverville29!! We know who you are! You are a LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!!]
What was done in ACA to prevent this?
[You're assuming anyone actually READ the bill before it was passed.]
the reason policies are being cancled and blamed on ACA, is those policies did not meet the standards set by ACA. so now you have more complete coverage and of course since it covers more, it costs more.
the existing policies didn't cover what is required by ACA. Most of these policies were junk.
[This is the new talking point at the DUmp. All previous policies were "junk" insurance. Now, under ACA, we have so much better policies, and, naturally, that may cost a little more. But it's worth it. Indeed, we should THANK Lord Obama for raising our costs, because now our insurance is so much better! Not like that bad junky insurance we used to have! Eww! Bad! Junky!]
Policies weren't 'junk' to people who first bought them. Now rug's pulled out from under them and they're going to be pissed at having to pay more or be uninsured. When they bought those 'junk' policies, nobody warned them that the federal government would come along and take them away (and that is definitely the way people directly hit will look at it).
[STOP it, hooverville29, you LOUSY FREEPER TROLL!!! Somebody, get this man out of here! Throw him out the door!!]
The Prez should never been set up to make the broad assurance he did. It was done clumsily.
[LFT hooverville29 tries to cover his tracks by making "the Prez" just an innocent bystander who didn't know what was happening. Sorry, hooverville29, you've been exposed. We know who you are.]
You are so transparent.
[See? What did I tell you?]
Thank you for your concern. The only thing clumsy in this picture is your attempt to portray yourself as a Democrat.
[Get him! Grab him! Time for a tombstone! Lock! Ban! Delete!]
My current plan, which ACA kills as of January 1st:
~$150/mo, $1500 deductible, and a 0% co-pay.
My new ACA-approved "recommended plan" is now:
~$240/mo, $3000 deductible, and a 50% co-pay.
[Ah! Another one! Trying to confuse us with facts, eh? Well, we don't put up with that sort of thing around here!]
But at least I have, as an adult male, maternity and pediatric dental/vision until I am 19, right? Right? RIGHT?!
[Think of it like this: You can IDENTIFY as an 18-year-old female, and then you're covered! Who knows, you may NEED that maternity coverage someday! It's a crazy, mixed-up world.]
we've already heard stories about some companies moving employees to part-time status to avoid the issue.
[Like Forever 29.5.]
"If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what." Barack Obama June 2009
[DUmmie leftstreet then quotes President Obama saying basically the same thing on TWELVE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS! Hey, DUmmie leftstreet, what are you, another LOUSY FREEPER TROLL??? Don't quote Our President! You make it sound like he wasn't telling the truth! But, but . . . . he was misled! Yeah, it's the staff's fault! It was clumsy! No, wait! It's the RETHUGLICANS' fault! It's ALWAYS the Rethuglicans' fault! Ted Cruz! Tea Party! Boo! Hiss!]
What a shock to see an anti-ACA troll like you posting rightwing screeds against the ACA.
[Lousy Freeper Troll, AKA "anti-ACA troll."]
Everyone's running around with their hair on fire about something that's not even in effect yet, and about which the details are sketchy because of the website thing.
[Speaking of the website thing, did you see that they've taken ObamaCare Girl off the site? Here is what she looked like:
Maybe she was embarrassed to be associated with this stinker and asked to be taken off. But now they will need a NEW ObamaCare Girl to grace the website. I suggest these three candidates to replace her:
[A Fluke, a Flunk, and a Flake.]
this is going to be a HUGE f***ing problem for Democrats. . . . If millions have their current policies cancelled and face increased premiums for new plans it will be a problem for Democrats. . . . This could be a "read my lips" level political catastrophe.
[From your lips to Gaia's ears!]
You are the MAN for coining “Mutual of Obama”
I’ll wrestle the alligator while Marlin sips a beer.
Love the new Obamacare postah gurrrlz.
The Democrats are like Flounder of Animal House who was told he effed up for believing them after the Delta House destroyed a car he borrowed.
My current plan, which ACA kills as of January 1st:
~$150/mo, $1500 deductible, and a 0% co-pay.
My new ACA-approved “recommended plan” is now:
~$240/mo, $3000 deductible, and a 50% co-pay.
Yeah, but your new plan covers abortion and weiner removal.
Their definition of popular and mine are very different.
In their definition, millions of people will be on Obamacare therefore it’s “popular”
In my definition, if those people would rather be on their old, now outlawed plan, then Obamacare is “unpopular”.
Popular by force.
As popular as a proctology exam with an electric cattle prod.
Let's get Miley to try it! She'll tweet anything!
We all know that it's how Obama is perceived which is MOST important in this whole affair ...
And don't these people realize that the hoi polloi don't necessarily understand the "nuances" of poli-speak and may simply take words at face value? They really need to brush up on their delivery, if even if the DUmmies are starting to question things.
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