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Children School Teacher on Active Shooter Response
Gun Watch ^ | 23 September, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/22/2013 11:39:38 AM PDT by marktwain


In a discussion on freerepublic.com   about the Navy Yard active shooter situation, MacMattico posted this response about how the children in his daughter's school responded to an active shooter exercise:

First week of school, my daughter's entire school was put on “lockdown”. They couldn't leave their classes and doors (including classroom doors) were locked. Some idiot had called in a “threat” is all we have been told.

The boys started speaking up first, telling the teacher “if we hear gun shots we're not sitting here” and the teacher repeated they were suppose to stay seated until the “lockdown” was lifted.

Fortunately, nothing happened but the class had already made plans to use the fire escape window to get out if a gunman approached, and how to quickly move a large piece of furniture in front of the door to afford more escape time. The fastest kid in the class volunteered to be the first out the fire escape to run as fast as he could to see if it was safe down there. The girls were in on the plan, to, but chivalry is not dead as the boys said they would help the girls get out first.
The teacher said even if there's gun fire, the plan is to stay seated. One kid told her then you can stay seated next to the door and keep look out while we get out. 
 Notice that the students were not worried about breaking regulations.  They were worried about survival.   They created a plan based on developing circumstances, not one that had to work in all situations.   They were not disrespectful, they simply refused to allow the teacher to dictate to them that they must die in place.

It is interesting that their plan is very close to what actually worked in some school shootings.   A "lockdown" without a means of defense simply creates rooms full of hostages to be exploited.  In a great many situations, running away is a good survival strategy.

Unfortunately, from a bureaucratic standpoint, fleeing the scene of an active shooter is not tenable, because it cannot easily be done with absolute safety in drills.  First graders cannot be allowed to wander from the school.  Middle and high school students may make a drill into an impromptu day off from school, if they leave the campus.  

Still, it is refreshing to see students who are willing to think for themselves, evaluate a situation, and take action.  Too bad school officials cannot seem to foster such a sense of responsibility and to build on it.


 ©2013 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.

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TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; activeshooter; banglist; freedom; guncontrol; school; secondamendment; selfpreservation
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Government indoctrination centers seem to drain initiative from students.
1 posted on 09/22/2013 11:39:38 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

You are require by law to be here but we refuse to make any reasonable attempt to protect you.


2 posted on 09/22/2013 11:43:42 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: marktwain
Notice that the students were not worried about breaking regulations. They were worried about survival.

I see this attitude more and more:

It would be sensible to do it this way ... but the rules say ...
We'll lose money if we do that ... but the rules say we have to.
Doing this doesn't help anybody in any way ... but we have to follow the rules.

Eff the freakin' rules. I want my freedom back.

3 posted on 09/22/2013 11:45:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

(applauding)


4 posted on 09/22/2013 11:49:31 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
...freakin' rules. I want my freedom back.

You remember it. Pretty soon nobody will.

5 posted on 09/22/2013 11:49:51 AM PDT by HomeAtLast ( Get involved. Because you ARE involved.)
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To: marktwain
Schools need to be redesigned. Something as simple as sliding doors that can be closed manually or electronically.

Remember there was no door between the terrorists and the pilots on 9-11. A lobbyist called "no door"....too expensive....wife of a Senator!!

6 posted on 09/22/2013 11:50:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Advertise certain places as gun-free zones and instruct people to “shelter in place” if there’s an incident. It’s an ideal situation for some piece of garbage to rack up a body count.


7 posted on 09/22/2013 11:57:32 AM PDT by Hayride
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To: marktwain

If I don’t have gun then adios muchachos is numero uno on my list.


8 posted on 09/22/2013 12:02:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: marktwain

In Virginia Tech most of the kids crouched under their desks as he went kid to kid shooting them. Not putting up any form of resistance. They even waited while he reloaded.

That is kind of passive people the left wants.


9 posted on 09/22/2013 12:04:04 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: thorvaldr

Those students sound smarter than the teacher.

Just one more reason to homeschool!


10 posted on 09/22/2013 12:05:28 PM PDT by OKCharles
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To: marktwain

What age group are these kids? They seem smarter than their teacher.


11 posted on 09/22/2013 12:07:42 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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I don’t know what grade level these students are in is but from what I can see from the their response to the teacher’s was a much more responsible way.

If they show that much testicular fortitude in dealing with such a situation I say take them to a range, teach them to shoot, and train them on close quarter combat firearms tactics.

If and when the fun begins (either real or a drill) the students can gun up and go after the murderous idiot in the school.


12 posted on 09/22/2013 12:09:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: marktwain

bump


13 posted on 09/22/2013 12:11:42 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: driftdiver

bump

That was college, right? They had already been brainwashed. They even forgot they were adults I guess.


14 posted on 09/22/2013 12:13:10 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: marktwain
The teacher said even if there's gun fire, the plan is to stay seated. One kid told her then you can stay seated next to the door and keep look out while we get out.

LOL Bright bunch of kids there! Teacher seems so brainwashed, though, that if the shooter knocked she'd probably let him in.

15 posted on 09/22/2013 12:24:24 PM PDT by madison10
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To: marktwain

The kids have more brains than the lawyers who write these plans while safely surrounded by armed guards and the so-called educators who enforce them.


16 posted on 09/22/2013 12:46:58 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: HomeAtLast

The impulse to survive is hard-wired into our nature. It can’t be totally, indefinitely suppressed. That’s why no totalitarian system can ever hope to endure forever. We really are born to be free.


17 posted on 09/22/2013 12:49:39 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: marktwain

Small Wisdom 101:

Dick and Jane see a man with a gun.
Dick says to Jane: “Run! Jane, Run!!”

Even chickens have enough sense to run and try to dodge bullets than sit there like a sitting duck.

Ever see a chicken run?
It zigzags.
I used to raise chickens.


18 posted on 09/22/2013 12:59:15 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: Springfield Reformer
The impulse to survive is hard-wired into our nature. It can’t be totally, indefinitely suppressed. That’s why no totalitarian system can ever hope to endure forever. We really are born to be free.

If totalitarianism was the real problem, we'd have licked it long ago.

The real problem is that there are people who actually want to destroy humanity altogether, and who use totalitarianism as their cover.

19 posted on 09/22/2013 1:06:12 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: bunkerhill7
Serpentine!
20 posted on 09/22/2013 1:11:32 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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