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Greenfield: Egypt is Where History Goes to Die
Daniel Greenfield @ the Sultan Knish blog ^ | Monday, August 26, 2013 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 08/27/2013 12:00:06 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell

Monday, August 26, 2013

Egypt is Where History Goes to Die

Posted by Daniel Greenfield @ the Sultan Knish blog

One of the biggest differences between conservatives and liberals is that while conservatives believe that history is an expression of human nature, liberals don't believe in history, they believe in historical processes.

The shortage of conservatives explains why so many politicians and pundits glowingly endorsed the Arab Spring as the "end of history" because the historical processes had been achieved, the check boxes were ticked and Egypt, Tunisia and the rest of the Arab Spring countries would shortly reach the same historical terminus that Sweden, France and the United Kingdom had achieved.

It also explains why so many politicians are frantically trying to "fix" Egypt by putting it on the right historical track.

The liberal understanding of history is so hopelessly dominant that it never occurs to most of them that countries can't be fixed. They aren't leaky sinks, but systems emerging from a national culture. Egypt can't be fixed by calling the plumbers of democracy to tighten a few valves and bully the natives into holding another election.

The last election didn't fix Egypt. There's no reason to believe that another one will. Elections did not fix a single Arab Spring country. They didn't fix Russia. They won't fix China.

The men and women studiously examining their map of historical processes and urging Egypt to go left and then right and then left again don't understand Egypt or history.

They don't understand much of anything else either.

To the liberal misreading of history, a failed state is like an overweight fellow. Map out a diet and exercise regimen for him based on historical processes, things that he must do and mustn't do and he'll get better. If he isn't following orders, make him run through the right historical processes. If the whole thing backfires, refuse to admit it, because progressive policies never fail.

Push that logic forward and there is no reason to think that the past is relevant to a nation at all. Not when historical processes break away the present from the past and the future from the present.

There is no real need to understand Egypt or the Muslim Brotherhood in any great depth. Not when they are about to be transformed by the magic of democracy. The Muslim Brotherhood may have been a terrorist organization in the past, its branches may still engage in terrorism, but that stops mattering once the Brotherhood bows to the historical process of democracy. Egypt's history also vanishes once it is transmuted through the magic of elections.

Democracy didn't actually change Egypt. Egypt is still the same country it was before Obama's Cairo speech. It's poorer, more unstable and more dangerous. But it hasn't really changed.

Historical processes are progressive. They are a sort of school for nations. You pass one class and then another. Sometimes you might flunk a class, but then you retake it and move forward. Follow the historical processes and you continue moving forward.

The assumption that historical processes align with a forward motion, that the liberalization of a society moves it forward, are so innate that it goes unquestioned. It is why democracy is held to be a good, entirely apart from its outcome. Even if democratic elections lead to a takeover by a junta of fanatical cannibals, the very act of holding an election moves a society forward through one hoop in the great circus of historical processes. The immediate result may be cannibalism, but in the long run, as Arab Spring advocates remind us from the editorial pages, the society moves forward.

The liberal understanding of history made it impossible to see the Muslim Brotherhood for what it was because its victory did not fit the march of progress. The victory of the Muslim Brotherhood in a democratic election meant that it was progressive. Because that is how the forward motion of history is meant to work. And its overthrow had to be considered reactionary, regardless of the issues.

This blinkered view discarded the issues and nature of the participants. It traded the contents of the system, for the addiction of process. It made the same mistakes as in Iraq and Afghanistan, drifting on a democracy high without paying attention to who was actually winning the elections and what their plans for the future were. The conviction that Afghanistan or Iraq or Egypt were moving forward was not borne out by anything except the spectacle of process and the conviction that everything was bound to keep moving forward, especially if we gave it a push or two.

The conservative understanding of Iraq, Afghanistan and Egypt was that these places were backward because the culture of the people, their occupations, the way that they chose to live, kept it that way. But in the liberal understanding of history, they were backward because they had been denied access to modern processes for upgrading their societies. Give them democracy and they'll be Europe in no time at all.

It did not occur to them that the reason Egypt wasn't England had nothing to do with elections and everything to do with the culture of a broken country that hasn't gotten all that far past feudalism, and whose "modern" face was slapped together by European colonialism and local dictators borrowing European ideas and applying thin layers of them across the surface of a much older culture.

Processes don't move a society forward. The striving to learn and grow, to push beyond the next horizon and find out what is over the next hill. That innate organic expansionism, that creative dissatisfaction, cannot be transplanted or imposed externally. It either grows out of the soul of a culture or it does not. The historical processes that matter are a byproduct of such strivings.

The liberal puts structures before people while the conservative puts people before structures. Men are not numbers and there is no innate historical destiny to their processes that can exist apart from their whims, needs, urges, frustrations, rages, loves and unsettled ambitions. When we look into the structures of history we find that they, like the Trojan Horse, are filled with people.

We are not bound to move forward. It is quite possible that we are moving back. And even that sense of direction is a matter of opinion. To the Islamists of the Muslim Brotherhood, backward is forward, as they push on toward the 7th century.

The sense of historical direction in Cairo or New York is not an abstract, but a function of culture, a product of the things we value and strive toward. It is possible to distinguish the healthy and unhealthy cultures through the outcome of these products, but it is not possible to make a culture want not only the things we want, but to want them in the same way and through the same means.

Egypt is where history goes to die. Beneath its sands, there are ages and ages of lost time, lost civilizations and lost pasts that might have been. They lie there untouched by the mantra of historical processes. They simple were and are no more.

The Arab Spring is nothing but another one of those many sedimentary layers of history that fall into the sands and crunch under the sandals of the cultures that take each other's place. There was a time when Egypt moved forward, but those were ancient times and ancient days.

The modern Egypt is a jumble of crushed histories and broken pasts, its people combine the conquerors and the conquered, their histories lost and the futures unsought. Islam has cloaked them in its characteristic darkness that teaches its followers to strive for nothing except the subjugation of others to its will.

Egypt has not been an empire for a very long time. It is a colony of colonies, settled by foreigners, ruled by foreigners, surrounded by ancient history and detached from it. It is full of history and yet it has no history. It has no true past or future. Only the tedium of a present that never changes because the spirit that once moved the men of these sands forward has dried up. There is anger, fear and hate that follow the old familiar paths through the sand to the same destinations.

There is no future here. There is no history here. Egypt is where history goes to die, buried in its tombs with its ancient kings, lying in wait for another time when the sands will shift, the stones will fall and time will begin moving again.


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1 posted on 08/27/2013 12:00:06 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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To: arasina; daisy mae for the usa; AdvisorB; wizardoz; free-in-nyc; Vendome; Georgia Girl 2; ...
The ideologues fail again and again and again. They only succeed at denying their persistent failure. Such is the theme of this article. Egypt swallows up Marxist drivel and deposits it as waste in its limitless sands.

One line in particular spoke to me:

The last election didn't fix Egypt. There's no reason to believe that another one will. Elections did not fix a single Arab Spring country. They didn't fix Russia. They won't fix China.

I would add, "And they did not fix the US."

2 posted on 08/27/2013 12:08:46 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Another great piece of work by Greenfield.


3 posted on 08/27/2013 12:10:05 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Endowed by their Creator,' not by men.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
I would add, "And they did not fix the US."

I had the very same thought.

4 posted on 08/27/2013 12:10:45 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Endowed by their Creator,' not by men.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Louis Foxwell

Voting is now akin to firing blank cartridges. All it accomplishes is fouling the piece to no effect in our current environment.


5 posted on 08/27/2013 12:26:27 AM PDT by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Our founders, understanding the 'vote' between two wolves and a sheep, established a republic precisely because democracy, per se, was anathema to most of them.

I can't help but hear the echo of Churchill's spirit in Greenfield's work.
Relentlessly rising to rationally expose the stark truths of our time, only to be ignored or ridiculed by an oppostion deparately clinging to its militant ignorance and graveyard whistling.

Imagine a Congress with several dozen such courageous voices . . .

6 posted on 08/27/2013 2:40:42 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Louis Foxwell

The story of Genesis and Exodus is that God used Egypt as a metaphor for the world of sin and death, from which we all must escape by miraculous intervention and deliverance.

God also inspired a time when all of Egypt would be forced to observe His Feast of Tabernacles, a time that pictures the fruits of His salvation. see:

Zechariah 14:16-19 MKJV

(16) And it shall be, everyone who is left of all the nations which came up against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, Jehovah of Hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

(17) And it shall be, whoever will not come up from all the families of the earth to Jerusalem to worship the King, Jehovah of Hosts, even on them shall be no rain.

(18) And if the family of Egypt does not go up, nor come in, they shall have no rain, but the plague with which Jehovah shall strike the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

(19) This shall be Egypt’s offense, and the offense of all the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.


7 posted on 08/27/2013 4:41:25 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Louis Foxwell

Another Knish triumph, another day of meaningless drivel from Washington’s “intellectual elite.”


8 posted on 08/27/2013 7:16:08 AM PDT by golux
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To: tomkat
I can't help but hear the echo of Churchill's spirit in Greenfield's work.

Churchill ... and Kipling:

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!


9 posted on 08/27/2013 7:21:32 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Amen, Rudyard !


    a fool learns nothing,
             a smart man from his own goofs,
               a wise man from others'


/plagiarism by haiku .. lol

10 posted on 08/27/2013 7:39:48 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Louis Foxwell
It did not occur to them that the reason Egypt wasn't England had nothing to do with elections and everything to do with the culture of a broken country that hasn't gotten all that far past feudalism, and whose "modern" face was slapped together by European colonialism and local dictators borrowing European ideas and applying thin layers of them across the surface of a much older culture.

The reason people like Hillary and Kerry 'missed' the above brilliance was because Hillary and Kerry got to where where are using manipulation and guile - with a thin layer of pseudo-intellect cover used to fool the masses into thinking there's 'substance to their thoughts and appetites' ....

11 posted on 08/27/2013 9:19:02 AM PDT by GOPJ (Chicago's 10 year murder toll exceeds that of all US soldiers killed in Afghanistan..)
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To: Louis Foxwell
The last election didn't fix Egypt. There's no reason to believe that another one will. Elections did not fix a single Arab Spring country. They didn't fix Russia....

I'd leave Russia out of that equation. Something does in fact appear to have fixed Russia.

12 posted on 08/27/2013 9:32:38 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman

13 posted on 08/27/2013 9:33:51 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: EternalVigilance

In all nations today the leadership is far removed from it’s people.....it isn’t about the people... apart from using them to the advantage of their agendas on the WORLD STAGE in which they play....with just enough ‘pacifiers’ passed to the public as one would use with a crying child.

The world is like a school yard to those at the top rungs....keep the bullies in line and bribe whoever to play nice....there is no regard for human life, not really, only when it too can be used to advance the agenda.


14 posted on 08/27/2013 10:02:07 AM PDT by caww
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To: Louis Foxwell; flaglady47; mickie
Greenfield is one of the most brilliant thinkers and wordsmiths in the political writing arena today.

Leni

15 posted on 08/27/2013 1:46:12 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Louis Foxwell
Great stuff. The defining characteristic of a "progressive" is that he or she believes in identifiable historical processes that run from one state to another, supposedly higher state. That path may meander but the destination of this "progress" is only in one direction, hopefully toward a better world.

This model works only in the broadest of terms and the narrowest of bounds. Clearly with respect to forms of government in human history we already see cycles, not linear progress: Athens, for example, cycling from aristocracy to oligarchy to democracy back to oligarchy and finally subsumed under monarchy until that failed and the cycle started all over again. Golden Ages occur, to be sure, but they aren't an end state. That's the bad news. The good news is that we appear to be in one. More bad news, however - it won't last.

The history of Egypt is one of government imposed from the outside: the Hyksos, the Sea Peoples, the Assyrians, the Kushites, the Nubians, the Persians, the Greeks, the Romans, the Arabs. All of those proved ephemeral. Why anyone thought imposing Democracy from the outside would end any differently is a bit of a mystery.

16 posted on 08/27/2013 2:09:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: GOPJ
The reason people like Hillary and Kerry 'missed' the above brilliance was because Hillary and Kerry got to where they are using manipulation and guile - with a thin layer of pseudo-intellect cover....

This is a vitally important insight. These are ignorant people who presume their ignorance is intelligence. They do not understand intelligence, only deception and verbal jousting. Hillary does not even have that. She is simply a foul mouthed bully with a raw appetite for power.

One of the hallmarks of true intelligence is humility, a characteristic wholly lacking among progressives, especially progressive leadership.

17 posted on 08/27/2013 3:01:18 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt’s Generals:
‘How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?’
Foreign Policy | 15 Aug 2013 | John Hudson
Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055253/posts

Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt’s military — even as Cairo’s security forces massacre anti-government activists.

[by “anti-government activists” is meant church-burning jihadists]

Sen. Cruz Statement on Egypt (Suspend aid over anti-Muslim Brotherhood ‘coup’)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055492/posts

Ted Cruz blames Egyptian violence on Obama’s disregard for foreign aid law
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3055589/posts


18 posted on 09/01/2013 9:12:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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