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For years Rush, Levin, and most Conservative talk radio hosts argued that a third party meant certain defeat for Conservatives. Their advice was that our objective should be to reform the Republican Party to make it advance a more Coservative agenda. It is obvious, it has not worked, it has only gotten worse. The time has come for Conservatives to break away from the lying, deceiving Rebubicans. We have enough dealing with the destructive far left without having to also fight a defeatist, left leaning Republican Party. Just look at the disgusting Repubican approach on immigration and Obamacare. If we are going to save this Republic, we need to offer a distinct, politically different choice from either of the current parties.
1 posted on 08/23/2013 2:51:08 PM PDT by iontheball
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Yes lets all leave and have NO voice what so ever. Much better.

I will keep voting for the best candidate, note best is a VARIABLE VALUE. If you have a choice between a Cold, Flue and Brain Cancer the COLD is BEST to have


2 posted on 08/23/2013 2:59:31 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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The problem might be that the RC church is not going to recover from its scandals and its outrageous stand, preferring invaders over the sovereignty of the US.

Orthodox Christian churches are numerous and well-attended around here. Maybe they'll save Christianity.

3 posted on 08/23/2013 2:59:52 PM PDT by grania
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It wasn’t soccer moms or RINO’S or NASCAR dads or any other single group that put Bush over Kerry in 2004 except Evangelicals.

Loads of studies prove Evangelicals turned out and as a result - we defeated Kerry.

Four short years later - The GOP had kicked Christians to the curb. Yeah, we still voted Repub, but the bridge was already burned and Obama won.

Four years later and four more years of pissing off their base? The GOP failed again in ‘12.

Does anyone expect the Repugs will learn a lesson here for 2016?

Me neither.


4 posted on 08/23/2013 3:03:48 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Agree-able.


6 posted on 08/23/2013 3:08:44 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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The entire political process has been bastardized so badly that only socialists and communists can get elected to federal offices in a majority of the precincts. Why would the administration fight tooth and nail to stop voter id other than they have a stake in continuing voter fraud? Your vote is being cancelled out by the army of machine democrat voters riding in Acorn vans from precinct to precinct casting as many votes as they can. It is not only impossible for a truly honest and patriotic conservative candidate to get elected, it is impossible for them to even get on the ballot! The political class considers conservative voters as suckers. They’ll take your money, your liberty, your freedom, and you’ll just stay home and grumble. Big deal.


10 posted on 08/23/2013 3:23:37 PM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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Waaah Waah...I’m taking my ball and going home..sniff...


12 posted on 08/23/2013 3:26:56 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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I just won’t vote for anyone who isn’t Tea Party approved.

Ford/Gore/McLame/Romney —these are exactly the LoyalOpposition guys who turn me off.

They’ve treated my kind like Piss Boys.

Just let them TRY to get my vote, which they won’t AND GOOD I’M GLAD.


14 posted on 08/23/2013 3:30:25 PM PDT by gaijin
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The Republican party has decided its best shot at winning is with the Libertarians not the Christians.

The GOP has left the Christians.

A Conservative third party is the only option for Christians, and Conservatives who accept Reagan’s definition of a Conservative...


15 posted on 08/23/2013 3:31:21 PM PDT by montanajoe
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I am in agreement with you.

I will also add that most of the talk radio hosts, while well-meaning, have done little more than give the troops a false sense of hope with regard to the Republican Party. And their mantra continues to this day.

The best way to accomplish this, imo, is for the real conservatives we can trust leave the GOP all together and form/join a third party. America's Party, Constitution Party, whatever. Tens of millions will follow and they will soon become a force to be reckoned with, guaranteed.

To build it from the ground up would probably be better, but there's not enough time to get it done that way.

17 posted on 08/23/2013 3:35:44 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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We’ve been building the foundations of such an organization for the last five years.

http://www.selfgovernment.us/about.html


19 posted on 08/23/2013 3:37:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('Endowed by their Creator,' not by men.)
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Too Late.

Already Gone

26 posted on 08/23/2013 3:47:13 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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A resounding NO! The only success we’ve seen is via TEA people working hard to take back the Republican party. Dividing the vote in the primary will result in a RINO nomination. Join us in this endeavor! We’ve seen third parties for a long time, and they continue to fail in getting anything done. If you really want change, stop dividing the vote. That is precisely how they win.


32 posted on 08/23/2013 3:54:49 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (TEA baby! Let's roll!)
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I’ve pretty much already left. Starting with Bush pushing amnesty in 2007 and going through the backstabbing of Palin and the tea-party, I went from a longtime, exclusively GOP voter and booster, to someone who intensely distrusts the entire Republican Party. And likely will never give it another vote.

Oh, yeah, and Romney... who facilitated homo-marriage in MA, cringed like a coward when confronted with a question on the Chick-Fil-A protest, wouldn’t let the words “tea party” be uttered at the convention, and had his vile, scumbag advisors trash Palin for years in order to grease his pathway to the nomination... yep, that Romney. Well, Romney, you didn’t get my vote, you bastard! First Republican I ever passed on. Go burn in hell, and take all your trash like Stu Stevens and his ilk with you!


34 posted on 08/23/2013 3:58:46 PM PDT by greene66
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Why should I vote fore the GOPe when they’re simply going to vote with the Dems? The House holds the purse yet we still have obamacare. the House has a Republic majority yet amnesty will, mark my words, be pushed through. The House has the majority yet only huffs and puffs at Benghazi, NSA, IRS, etc. They are dead to me.


36 posted on 08/23/2013 3:58:55 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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The problem with all of this is that it ignores the reason we keep getting RINOs, which is because that's who the voters are electing. While we were watching baseball and football, the left was winning our young over to its ways.

This article accurately points out that many will say that splitting the vote will give the Democrats more power, and acknowledges that is true. What it didn't point out is why we're getting those RINOs. Why? Because blaming the GOP for who the voters are electing is easier than winning over the voters to Conservative values? So what is the alternative? How will sending the Conservative vote to a third party change anything? By giving us more Democrats? Is that the master plan?

In 1992, many of us voted third party, for many of the arguments made now. The result? Clinton won. What's worse, Clinton inherited the end of the Cold War and a growing economy, and the Tech Boom was starting, and he got the credit for the job growth and "balanced budget" that followed. We have been at a disadvantage ever since.

We are not going to get real Conservatives again until we win Americans over to Conservative values. If we aren't willing to do that, we'll either get more RINOs, or split our votes and give the Democrats even more power.

40 posted on 08/23/2013 4:08:07 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty
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If you can’t control the Republican party, you sure are not going to control the US.

This kind of article is written to reduce support for Republicans.

Sure they are not perfect. Are you willing to have two more years of Dems in charge of Senate, House and President too?

Divided government doesn’t make much progress. Undivided government, controlled by evil people will make progress that you don’t like.


49 posted on 08/23/2013 4:19:32 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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It is obvious, it has not worked, it has only gotten worse.

Wrong.

I like my rep (Tim Walberg) who is a Republican. He's generally done a good job. Bad reps can be primaried out. I've been there and done that and helped our current rep succeed in his primary against a RINO. It takes hard work, less bitching, and good organization to get that done. If Grace Vuoto wants to play the Christian card and sound moralistic, my rep is also a minister who is as squeaky clean as it gets.

As far as Priebus goes, the way to get rid of him is by electing good RNC committee folks. We got rid of two of them that didn't get the job done.

Want to get rid of Obamacare and have a good immigration policy? Elect a good senate.

63 posted on 08/23/2013 4:32:37 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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Explain the logic that you can win elections when you don't have the votes to win a majority of a party.

Ross Perot came closer than anybody and it didn't even work out for him. Gave us Bill Clinton.

I know from experience...IT DOES NOT WORK!

70 posted on 08/23/2013 4:38:04 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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So it’s time to turn the country over to anti-Christian, marriage-hating, homosexual-loving communists? I think I’ll pass.


83 posted on 08/23/2013 4:45:34 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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Agree. Mass suicide is a fantastic political strategy.


89 posted on 08/23/2013 4:56:54 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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