I like Joyce Meyer, which is a surprise even to me. I had refused to listen to her for years. I think she has a powerful testimony and just remarkable faith, and I enjoy hearing about her experiences.
She is the only preacher who I have a recording of, or would go to see at an event.
I don’t think she is perfect, and I don’t idolize her, but I do enjoy her lessons from time, to time when I need to fill some time.
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Agreed.
Applause!!!!!
That being said, if someone teaches truly bad doctrine, then they are hurting people. But if someone is just saying it slightly "off", I'm not sure it's the end of the world.
So many Christian denominations. So many variations in the faith. I suppose one has to make up their own mind as to whether or not Joyce Meyer is all that bad. Personally, I think the charge is heavy-handed.
I am not familiar with them, except seeing them briefly before changing channels.
Do they teach who the Kenites are?
Good post.
I wonder what he thinks of John Hagee.
Ah, preacher-rumble.
This will be fun to watch, and absolutely no minds will be changed, and they all lose Jesus points for having logs in their eyes.
I don’t know where this guy is getting this name it and claim it theology with regard to Meyer. I have never, and I mean that word, heard that teaching from her.
She does like her applause, and she obvious likes nice clothing. That said, in all the years I listened to her I do not recall a single time she even preached on faith healing. Not once.
Every disciple either was martyred or suffered for their faith. They did not live in luxury, but was sent out with only the clothes on their back.
I’ve watched Osteen a few times and he always reminds me of the type of guy who constantly plays it safe so no one will be offended at him and put him in danger of losing that fabulous gig.
totally agree
The person I have the biggest problem with is Rod Parsley. His broadcasts aren’t sermons - they’re infomercials. According to Parsley, God wants to bless me, but can’t do it until I send in a $ 300.00 “Seed Gift”, and the check clears.
The only tv preacher whom I have total confidence in their wisdom and mission is Dr. Charles Stanley on In Touch. That’s not to say he never gets anything wrong - none of us are perfect - but I have watched or listened to many a sermon of his over the years and could never point to something he said that’s not backed up by Scripture. With most, it doesn’t take long before I hear some questionable doctrine.
Further, any preacher who spends most of their time talking about themselves or praising man is not to be trusted. Pulpit sermons should be about our relationship with Holy, Almighty God. That’s an inexhaustible topic right there and keeps the focus right where it belongs.
I think this guy brings up some good points - the main one not literally quoted “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1
To me, Joel gives an excuse for not preaching the Gospel, because the lesser good of making people feel better about themselves is more important to him than warning people that a false right-standing with God through ‘feeling good’ will have eternal consequences.
As far as Joyce Meyers - I grew up in the late 70’s/early 80’s with the “Name It/Claim It” crowd pulling away close friends and infiltrating strong biblically doctrinal churches. It got me so filled with righteous indignation and I spent most of my time debating, interceding in prayer or letting friends go the way of a tickled ear. She was one of the main pushers of this. Not until years later did God deal with my self-righteous attitude with her. I saw some things changed in her what I originally perceived as extreme arrogance. I do believe God has touched her in certain ways in her life, but I also know that many can be used by God and still be corrupt vessels (heh - me included).
I have no problem whatsoever in believing 100% of the Bible, old and new testaments, including the Book of Acts where broken men were changed by the power of the Holy Spirit to do mighty works - ALWAYS GIVING GOD THE GLORY. But I still burn with anger towards those who Paul was referring to when he said “...who preach the Gospel, whether for selfish gain or not, the Gospel is still preached”. They deceive many into treating God like whiffle-dust or Santa Claus or a genie.
Sure, I long to have the faith to tell the seas to be still, or like Elijah, call up rain after 3 years of drought, or praying for a little girl and see her raised from the dead (or even sicking a lion on some yutes who call me baldy (2 Kings 2:22-24)). But all of these are for God’s glory. That’s why James so well puts it: “3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.”
I had no idea about what he quotes about Joyce Meyers saying. If truthfully quoted, indeed it is not biblical. Indeed, I am responsible to speak the truth, admonish fellow Christians that the way of the Cross is not Me-first, and pray for those like Joyce and Joel to repent of false doctrines.
Yet we serve the Creator of the Universe with whom ALL things are possible. And I believe that with all my heart!
They are both heretics and I’m glad to see them spoken as such. I know plenty of people who have struggled under the ministry of both these people and they continue to struggle because they can’t quite believe that what they want to hear is not truth. These are black days enough, just in the physical world—with the state our country and world are in-—and we best NOT be listening to those who are struggling with the truth themselves. We need sound doctrine. The spiritual battle is the real struggle we are in and the kingdom is still before us. We are not living in it yet. The health & wealth doctrines are a legalistic system in themselves. You only need to listen to the teachers of it to understand that if you don’t get what they have that the problem is your faith, not their message. That’s partly true because you are putting your faith into a false teaching instead of God’s Word and His Son.
I don’t trust Hank Hanegraaff. First he proclaims healing ended sometime ago. The Bible doesn’t say that. And Hanegraaff embraces the flawed belief that the church replaced Israel.
For this person to be influenced by Hanegraaff and his flawed theology has me questioning this entire op-ed.