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I think this guy brings up some good points - the main one not literally quoted “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1

To me, Joel gives an excuse for not preaching the Gospel, because the lesser good of making people feel better about themselves is more important to him than warning people that a false right-standing with God through ‘feeling good’ will have eternal consequences.

As far as Joyce Meyers - I grew up in the late 70’s/early 80’s with the “Name It/Claim It” crowd pulling away close friends and infiltrating strong biblically doctrinal churches. It got me so filled with righteous indignation and I spent most of my time debating, interceding in prayer or letting friends go the way of a tickled ear. She was one of the main pushers of this. Not until years later did God deal with my self-righteous attitude with her. I saw some things changed in her what I originally perceived as extreme arrogance. I do believe God has touched her in certain ways in her life, but I also know that many can be used by God and still be corrupt vessels (heh - me included).

I have no problem whatsoever in believing 100% of the Bible, old and new testaments, including the Book of Acts where broken men were changed by the power of the Holy Spirit to do mighty works - ALWAYS GIVING GOD THE GLORY. But I still burn with anger towards those who Paul was referring to when he said “...who preach the Gospel, whether for selfish gain or not, the Gospel is still preached”. They deceive many into treating God like whiffle-dust or Santa Claus or a genie.

Sure, I long to have the faith to tell the seas to be still, or like Elijah, call up rain after 3 years of drought, or praying for a little girl and see her raised from the dead (or even sicking a lion on some yutes who call me baldy (2 Kings 2:22-24)). But all of these are for God’s glory. That’s why James so well puts it: “3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.”

I had no idea about what he quotes about Joyce Meyers saying. If truthfully quoted, indeed it is not biblical. Indeed, I am responsible to speak the truth, admonish fellow Christians that the way of the Cross is not Me-first, and pray for those like Joyce and Joel to repent of false doctrines.

Yet we serve the Creator of the Universe with whom ALL things are possible. And I believe that with all my heart!