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WA:Bellingham Pays $15,000 for Police Pointing Gun at Open Carrier
Gun Watch ^ | 15 August, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/14/2013 11:06:15 AM PDT by marktwain



People carrying firearms openly have racked up a significant number of settlements for police overstepping their bounds.  In this latest case, the city of Bellingham, Washington has agreed to pay $15,000.

BELLINGHAM, Wash. (AP) - Lawyers say Bellingham has agreed to pay $15,000 to a man who was threatened by a police officer for wearing a holstered gun in a city park.

The police officer pointed his gun at the citizen who was not breaking any law.   Second Amendment activists who exercise their rights are winning these cases by being scrupulously law abiding, polite, and recording their interactions.

 Several settlements have been reached in Michigan.

 ©2013 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.

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TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; guncontrol; opencarry; secondamendment; settlement; shallnotbeinfringed; wa; youwillnotdisarmus
The more cities have to pay, the more police become educated.
1 posted on 08/14/2013 11:06:15 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Though in a sense it doesn’t seem quite right to pile-on to the beat cops for following a policy being set by Elected Liberal Cretins in City Hall, the State Capitol and Washington, D.C.


2 posted on 08/14/2013 11:13:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Police have unions so they don’t have to be educated.


3 posted on 08/14/2013 11:13:55 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Though in a sense it doesn’t seem quite right to pile-on to the beat cops for following a policy being set by Elected Liberal Cretins in City Hall, the State Capitol and Washington, D.C.

I disagree. The morons can read the bill of rights just like we did. They swore an oath to defend the Constitution. They are paid to enforce the law, which they obviously do not understand.If they are too stupid to think they need to get a job that requires no thought.

4 posted on 08/14/2013 11:18:44 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: marktwain

I think they would learn better if the money came out of the offending officer’s pocket instead of the tax payer’s pocket. I am glad that we are winning these little victories but, at the same time, it’s BS that cops themselves are rarely held personally accountable for their misdeeds. No other profession allows it’s members to get away with so much. I think the fact that they are never held accountable is a large part of what is driving all the abuse of power stories we have been hearing. They think they’re above the law and nothing ever happens to make them think otherwise.


5 posted on 08/14/2013 11:29:32 AM PDT by RC one
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Bingo. The rest of the taxpayers are footing these ‘bills’.

If I failed at my job as badly as these ‘cops’ I’d be out on my ass, if not in jail like the rest of the serfs.


6 posted on 08/14/2013 11:34:55 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Gov't always start as MAY and SHOULD, but soon becomes one of WILL and SHALL. Never let them START.)
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To: marktwain

In the 1970s, police procedure changed from the “Old West” rules to “SWAT” rules, because of a few high profile police assassinations by leftist radical terrorists.

However, the change was for the worse. While by the very nature of their job, police need to be somewhat confrontational, there is a huge difference between doing so with a holstered weapon and a brandished weapon.

This is why today, still using SWAT tactics, police are huge fans of Tasers, because they give them far more options than life or death. Or perhaps loss of their gun.

But the underlying problem remains. Brandishing a gun seldom makes a bad situation better; but it can most definitely make an okay situation bad.

Add to this what I can call the “Reverse Tueller Drill”. That is, a policeman whose gun remains holstered, instead using a weapon like a nightstick, can himself “close the gap” very quickly.

So what does all this mean? It means that states should consider migrating the police departments in their states *away* from the SWAT techniques. It would likely result in far fewer police casualties, far fewer unintentional shootings, and far fewer “bad” or unnecessary shootings.

This does not leave policemen helpless, however, because one of the premier Old West rules was that if a police officer *did* remove his gun from its holster, his intent was to shoot to kill, not to menace, threaten, or to “take control of the situation.” This said to criminals that they had to *immediately* take a submissive posture, or they were likely to be killed.


7 posted on 08/14/2013 12:04:34 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: marktwain

It wasn’t the gun, it was the sign. In the shrunken mind of the LEO, this must have been a radical right-wing nut.

15,000 is too little.


8 posted on 08/14/2013 12:08:22 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Fascism is wrong even when practiced by the government.)
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i think every fine needs to be taken out of the specific involved officers’ pensions, and then if they are broke, out of the general police union monies.


9 posted on 08/14/2013 12:50:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Buckeye, ever heard of “ignorance of the law is no defense?” It applies particularly to the fuzz as well.


10 posted on 08/14/2013 5:10:13 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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