Posted on 08/07/2013 6:29:11 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
The following image is a composite created by scanning the WH LFBC using Xerox WorkCentre 7655 upside down using the automatic feeder. The resulting file was opened in Preview, the image rotated 180 degrees and printed to PDF. The resulting PDF was opened in preview, the layers unlocked and moved to the side. In addition, a close up of the signature was ‘blown up’ to show how the background layer, not surprisingly, has filled in some of the white that resulted from the separation of the background and foreground layers.
Note how for example the signature block is fully separated.
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New error or flaw found on Obama’s long form birth certificate. Note the doctor’s signature – David Sinclair. Obots like to poke fun at Miki Booth because her son was delivered by the same doctor – David Sinclair. Now look at Miki’s birth certificate – http://logisticsmonster.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/MikiBoothBC.jpg
Notice the signature. Notice what is next to the signature -
“MD” for Medical Doctor.
Now look at Obama’s birth certificate – NO “MD” signature.
Obots will argue that he would have been redundant to do it on Obama’s BC because the “MD” checkbox is marked. However look at the following example: http://obamabc.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/pdf-text-fails-grid-test.jpg
Note how the doctor adds “MD” to his signature even though the checkbox is marked.
it’s a matter of preference. Doctors like to add “MD” to their signature to show respect for their title and profession.
Again, it’s just another flaw or inconstistancy on Obama’s birth certificate.
The signature on the will of Dr. David Sinclair, top, a doctor from Hawaii, appears to match to a signature on President Barack Obama’s birth certificate, lower, which was circulated on the Internet last month.
Proves nothing as far as I can see, but there you are.
I listened to Fogblower Reality Check’s 2-hour blog radio program featuring guest blogger, NBC.
First, NBC is a male, probably middle-aged and with a European accent that my ear couldn’t identify.
NBC says he has NO credentials in document investigation or forensics, but says he is an accomplished scientist who is dedicated to and deeply respectful of the scientific method. This appears to me to be the case.
NBC refused to join in on in any ad hominem birther-bashing with the other three panel members and said that prior to his investigation he thought it was perfectly respectable to speculate whether the WH LFBC pdf had been forged (I thought the other Fogblowers were going to throw him off the program when NBC said this, but they bit their tongues).
NBC also said that if Zullo’s team could prove scientifically that the image was forged upstream from being copied or in Reed Hayes so-far hidden report, he was perfectly willing to accept that! (More heart-burn for the other Fogblowers!)
NBC says he only became interested in the LFBC pdf about three months ago because a German named Gunther, IIRC, got him interested in it. He has worked on it as an enjoyable intellectual challenge and not for any need to refute Zullo’s team.
He said earlier claims that MRC was responsible for the pdf anomalies were only speculative and now he feels that his investigation with step-by-step replication instructions is definitive, except for some remaining issues with the “halo” effect that he regards as minor.
He said that the halo seems to be associated with the green security paper (supposedly on the original from HI) and properties of that paper which were intended to make it hard to copy.
NBC welcomed getting “good questions” from several FReepers on this thread and was happy to answer them and seemed willing to continue to do so if they were sincere.
Thanks justiceseeker93, good points.
If the BC they have, with information that matches the White House image, is a fabricated BC at the request of law enforcement, the record they had to cover up could claim anything, including a different name. But the critical point is that the document that originally existed for Barack Hussein Obama, II has to be non-valid.
Who do you post as over at the Fogbow and at Dr. Conspiracy’s website.
“Who do you post as over at the Fogbow and at Dr. Conspiracy’s website.”
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I don’t post at either of them.
There are other sites to which I contribute occasionally, but since I have no intention of revealing my identity, I’m not going to respond to further questions about where and under what names I post.
She didn’t sign the Nordykes’ BCs.
“I don’t post at either of them.”
I find that hard to believe. I researched your past postings and found a very familiar snotty attitude and exact particular terminology in your replies to posters that you disagree with here that is very similar with a Fogbow and Dr. Conspiracy poster.
Butterdezillion, ladysforest are you familiar with this Hawaiian BC.
http://obamabc.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/pdf-text-fails-grid-test.jpg
jmy22077:
This 1959 Hawaii BC shows Dr. West signature but no MD after his name.
http://www.wnd.com/2011/05/298537/
The Nordykes’ BC show the doctor’s signature without the MD.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/dailypix/2009/Jul/28/M1139416728.GIF
On the Alan Booth BC - the check boxes labeled MD, D.O., Midwife and Other are missing. So maybe that’s why the doctor added MD.
Thanks for the new 1961 Hawaiian BC (well new to me). It has some interesting stuff. Like the hospital is Kuakini. And the registrar is Verna Lee. But the dates are not typical. Mother signed it on the 10th (a Saturday), doctor signed it on the 13th (a Tuesday) and Lee signed it on the 19th (a Monday). But this would seem to violate the DOH requirements that BCs be submitted within 7 days.
Under the race of the father the word colored is struck out (is this the one Zullo mentioned?) The code for Negro is 9. And the code for the race Hawaiian is 2.
BFL
“I find that hard to believe.”
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I’m not surprised.
You keep telling us, on the other hand, that we all know that it’s a 100% sure thing that the CCP’s claims have been proved to be true, even though the proof’s never even been released.
I think your record for knowing what to believe speaks for itself.
To me it looks like the code on fathers race (negro) was a 7.
Now you’re getting it!
I love Judge Judy’s observation. She says “If it doesn’t make sense, it’s not true!” That’s a good guideline.
Obama’s birth certificate says he was born in Hawaii. I was just doing a newspaper search through our library system. It allows me to search thousands of articles, going back many years. The first articles on Obama were from 1990 when he was named the first black editor of The Harvard Law Review. Every article I clicked on either stated he was from Hawaii or was born there. Not a single article claimed he was born in Kenya. Did Obama claim he was Kenyan-born in order to get elected to the Illinois Senate? Not according to the articles I could find from that time frame. Every single one. Born in Hawaii.
So, according to what I could find, Barack Obama was consistent in claiming to be born in Hawaii. And, since his birth certificate is from Hawaii, that makes sense.
Claiming he was born in Kenya would have been weird. As Judge Judy pointed out, that would not make sense, it would be unbelievable. My goodness, some folks actually believe an 18-year old girl, 9 months pregnant with her first child, would spend thousands of dollars to fly by herself to a third world country to give birth to that child! Can you imagine a more unbelievable scenario? It doesn’t make sense. It’s not true.
Maybe, although it does not appear to be as angular as the seven in box 7B. And there appears to be a cross at the midpoint of the down stroke although that may be a fold in the paper.
Also this is the first BC I’ve seen where the code in 12b doesn’t match the code in 9.
Verna Lee initialed the correction of the misspelling in the box 16 (looks like on June 22nd)but not the struck out Colored in Box 9.
The proof is in this affidavit by Mike Zullo. It proves the document is a 100% forgery along with his selective service registration.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1O4bkLxw5M6TE1UdlNpTTdQVDg/edit?usp=sharing
“My goodness, some folks actually believe an 18-year old girl, 9 months pregnant with her first child, would spend thousands of dollars to fly by herself to a third world country to give birth to that child! Can you imagine a more unbelievable scenario? It doesn’t make sense. It’s not true.”
She could have gone to Kenya earlier in her pregnancy in 1961........many months earlier. There is no record of her being in Hawaii after her marriage in February. The next record of her is in Washington state two weeks after the alleged birth.
“Did Obama claim he was Kenyan-born in order to get elected to the Illinois Senate?”
Actually, his Illinois Senate website says he was born in Hawaii.
http://web.archive.org/web/19991001172215/http://www.legis.state.il.us/homepages/senate/obamab.html
And there is his 1995 book where he talks about walking around Honolulu, past the hospital where he was born.
“It proves the document is a 100% forgery...”
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That’s it? You, Cold Case Posse Supporter, are telling me what the Cold Case Posse report proves?
I’m sorry, CCPS, but I’ve told you before. The Cold Case Posse Supporter is not someone with the authority to determine what the Cold Case Posse has proved. You’re simply stating your opinion, which is worth no more than mine or anyone else’s.
You can tell us you’re convinced. You can tell us you’re 100% convinced. Hell, you can tell us you’re 150% convinced.
But by pretending that your opinion constitutes a certainty, you are confirming my statement about your ability to know what to believe.
“She could have gone to Kenya earlier in her pregnancy in 1961”
But according to INS records , she could not have returned before June, 1962. Unless she returned by boat. The archive shows that between July, 1st, 1961 and June 30th 1962 only one person came from Kenya by air and that person was not a US citizen.
There is also the problem that Obama Sr.’s INS records show that he arrived in the US in 1959 but did leave until IIRC 1964. If he left and came back it would be reflected in his files. It is unlikely that she went to Kenya by herself.
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