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How Much Has the Detroit Police Force Really Been Cut?
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 8/3/2013 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 08/07/2013 5:30:57 AM PDT by MichCapCon

Soon after the city of Detroit filed for bankruptcy, many blogs and news sites began running "facts" about the city. One common "fact" repeated often was that "the size of the police force in Detroit has been cut by about 40 percent over the past decade."

Although it makes for interesting reading, just how much the police department has been cut is not that simple to determine and is another example of the city's dysfunction.

For example, the city's 2003 Comprehensive Annual Financial Report states there were 4,810 uniform police officers that year. However, the city's 2012 CAFR lists the city as having 3,981 uniform police officers in 2003 and then two pages later has the city with 3,965 uniform police officers in 2003.

And the confusion is more than just an accounting hiccup.

The city's Emergency Manager Review Team report stated that regarding police operations, "operational dysfunction contributes to the city's serious financial problem."

The emergency manager's report found that the city's police department had about 2,030 employees in 2012. However, city officials and police department officials couldn't agree to just what those 2,030 employees did. City officials stated that only 33 percent of the police department's employees were involved in patrolling the city. The rest were involved in "ancillary administrative functions" such as payroll.

Police department officials claimed that 68 percent of its workforce was involved in patrol work and another 15 percent were involved in investigations.

"The Review Team could not resolve this discrepancy because the City's administration had no reliable information concerning what staffing levels are, or should be, within the Police Department," the report stated.

James Hohman, a fiscal policy analyst for the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, said the city of Detroit has had problems getting the most basic pieces of information accurate.

"They've been unable to answer the basic questions about what they are doing and how much it costs," Hohman said.

Emergency Manager Kevyn Orr is making progress, Hohman said.

"Orr is getting a handle on fixing these problems and his plan is encouraging," Hohman said. "They are closer to having a functional government now than they have been in the past decade."

For the record, the 2012 CAFR has the city with 2,708 uniformed police officers.

Bill Nowling, Orr's spokesman, said improving public safety is a top priority for the emergency manager and that new Police Chief James Craig is "working to provide honest and realistic crime stats and force deployment figures."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: chapter9; detroit; michigan; police; rosemaryaquillina
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1 posted on 08/07/2013 5:30:57 AM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

Unions lie, even to themselves.


2 posted on 08/07/2013 5:35:40 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: MichCapCon

It’s simple. Do what Governor Scott did in Florida. He had every employee write down what they did. Astonishingly, quite a few couldn’t. Some of these were in highly compensated positions. Scott fired them. (The employee I got this from was caught between outrage that he had to describe his job and glee that several of his many superiors were now gone.)


3 posted on 08/07/2013 5:36:54 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Part of the problem is the complete and utter corruption that permeates the whole city. Everybody has their own scam going on and nobody knows the truth.


4 posted on 08/07/2013 5:37:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: USS Alaska
We live in a country that admits it CANNOT account for all the illegals/undocumented here YET demands that we provide amnesty for ALL of them....

So, what's difference if Detroit screams that it has to furlough police officers but CANNOT tell us how many there are on the books?!

5 posted on 08/07/2013 5:38:47 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: Gen.Blather

“But I’ve got people skills!!!” /OfficeSpace


6 posted on 08/07/2013 5:42:01 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Gen.Blather

We tried passing a law that would allow the emergency manager to fire people at will (Including city council members). Unfortunately we’re stuck with the old emergency manager law.

The emergency manager for the Detroit public schools was far more effective. He stopped mailing checks to school employees and made them come take the checks from his hand. He found nearly 300 employees who didn’t exist but were getting paychecks.


7 posted on 08/07/2013 5:42:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MichCapCon
I don't like cops....so they don't like me!


8 posted on 08/07/2013 5:43:32 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: USS Alaska

Something in this math equation doesn’t figure. Only one-third are street cops? I’d go and fire half of the other guys overnight, or give them the choice of pulling street duty.


9 posted on 08/07/2013 5:45:06 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: MichCapCon
Detroit is in a position where this sort of law enforcement is the only kind that will work:
10 posted on 08/07/2013 5:49:09 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: pepsionice

Charlie LeDuff just posted this a few minutes ago. Detroit gives the mayor a 20 cop protection force. Fortunately the new police chief came from outside and is cutting the force. I personally think 2 for the mayor would be plenty. Kevyn Orr on the other hand probably needs the protection.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/23064028/leduff-detroit-police-chief-trimming-mayors-executive-protection-unit#.UgJAnSAM8a8.twitter


11 posted on 08/07/2013 5:51:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: NRA1995

The current situation of Detroit makes the Robocop series all too realistic


12 posted on 08/07/2013 5:52:10 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Gen.Blather
Did he bring in the Bobs?
13 posted on 08/07/2013 6:05:16 AM PDT by hout8475
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To: MichCapCon

Sooooo,
Is the Detroit police dept. killing young black boys on purpose like the Chicago police are?


14 posted on 08/07/2013 6:12:35 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) ( Hey Rubio, eat pooh pal))
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To: MichCapCon
The way Detroit is going they're going to have to layoff most of the force and just bring in Robocop to handle the hoodlums!
How much does a single Robocop cost to purchase or rent? What about maintenance? Detroit needs to look into this option, it might save a lot of money and get rid of the bad guys, for good!

How many Robocops does the city need? 10? 20? 50?

How many red-head babe girlfriends does a Robocop require and, more importantly, what about the race issue?
How many African American Robocops are required as opposed to Caucasian Robocops? What is a “fair” ratio?
The DPD must be an equal opportunity Robocop employer...

15 posted on 08/07/2013 6:16:13 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: MichCapCon
This just illustrates what every knowledgeable person already knew. The people who run the City of Detroit can't count above one thousand. They are almost all semi-literate and incapable of understanding the most rudimentary of issues.

What they are good at doing is:

1. Spending money
2. Screaming racism at the top of their lungs
3. Stealing
4. Lying
5. Supporting Obama and other Democrats.

16 posted on 08/07/2013 6:18:17 AM PDT by detective
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To: Gen.Blather

Amazing. I am required to write detailed plans of how I am to spend every minute of every workday, and have them ready anytime my boss wants to look at them. And so are everyone of my colleagues. And the cops can’t report a summary of their day?


17 posted on 08/07/2013 6:27:22 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (Qui pacem, praeparet bellum.)
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To: MichCapCon; All

Solve all of Detroit’s crime. Layoff the entire police force. Hire a couple of bounty hunters...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBfSbdAC-3k


18 posted on 08/07/2013 6:36:58 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: MichCapCon

Marion Shepilov Barry ran DC the same way. At his worst it was determined that NO ONE knew or could figure out how many people worked for the city. When he came to office, Dave Bing had all Detroit teachers come to his office to personally sign for their checks. Not surprisingly some - not many - but some were never picked up. Those checks had been cashed in the past, but no one wanted to be seen personally stealing them. Of course the matter was dropped for fear of union trouble.


19 posted on 08/07/2013 6:45:29 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Gen.Blather
Do what Governor Scott did in Florida. He had every employee write down what they did. Astonishingly, quite a few couldn’t. Some of these were in highly compensated positions. Scott fired them.

Sounds like that classic scene in Office Space where John C. McGinley is debriefing that Systems Analyst.

"SO.......what is it you'd say.......you DO here????"


20 posted on 08/07/2013 6:47:40 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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