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MS:Judge Blocks Mississippi Constitution from Taking Effect on Open Carry of Arms
Gun Watch ^ | 29 June, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 06/29/2013 3:20:15 AM PDT by marktwain

In a surprise move, circuit Judge Winston Kidd ruled the law that restores the open carry rights guaranteed by the Mississippi Constitution as vague, and that an injunction is needed to stop irreparable harm.

This bizarre interpretation of the law comes late in the process.  The law clarified a strange interpretation of the Mississippi concealed carry law that defined any kind of carry as concealed carry.    According to that interpretation, even carrying a pistol by a thong around the neck was defined as "concealed carry" because the the thong "concealed" a tiny part of the pistol.

No other state in the union has such an interpretation of what "concealed" means.  

Open carry of weapons has always been protected by the Mississippi Constitution.  Concealed carry of weapons was protected until the Constitutional amendments of 1890, when the legislature was granted the power to regulate concealed weapons.

Here are the changes that have been made in the Mississippi Constitution regarding the right to bear arms since statehood:

1817 Mississippi:  Every citizen has a right to bear arms, in defence of himself and the State.

1832 Mississippi:  Every citizen has a right to bear arms in defence of himself and of the State.

1868 Mississippi:  All persons shall have a right to keep and bear arms for their defence.

1890 The right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person, or property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall not be called in question, but the legislature may regulate or forbid carrying concealed weapons.

 The clarification of the law passed the legislature with overwhelming margins, was signed by the governor, and was to go into effect on 1 July, 2013.

In support of the injunction, State Senator John Horhn, Democrat, of Jackson said "we don't believe that the constitution provides for open carry."

 A hearing is scheduled for 8 July for more arguments to determine if the injunction should be extended for more time.

A lawyer for the Southern Poverty Law Center,  played the tired old "wild West" card, claiming mayhem woud follow if the Constitution was enforced and open carry protected as it is in most states.

The Mississippi Constitution seems clear. 

Link to previous article on the passage of the law

Link to Gun Watch article


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; guncontrol; johnhorhn; judicialreviewboard; mississippi; ms; opencarry; removefrombench; secondamendment; winstonkidd
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Another "what the meaning of "is" is, moment.
1 posted on 06/29/2013 3:20:15 AM PDT by marktwain
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Why would a woman wear a thong around her neck, especially if she is carrying? Unless she can’t get into it any other way ...


2 posted on 06/29/2013 3:37:56 AM PDT by Ken522
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This little S&W .32 came from New Orleans. The hole drilled in the rib allowed a "working girl" to carry it on a thong around her neck. The thong would break when she needed to draw.

It still shoots fine after 100+ years. If it could talk it would no doubt have some interesting things to say.

3 posted on 06/29/2013 3:55:35 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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1st MODEL S&W photo SW.jpg
4 posted on 06/29/2013 3:55:55 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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What if it’s a clear plastic thong?

Apparently you can cover your face with a scarf and get a driver’s license, vote, and travel by air, but if there’s a bit of strap or cord covering your firearm you’re becoming an outlaw. So what if you put a bag over your head and walk around holding a rifle, pistol, or shotgun? That would have to be alright. Wouldn’t it?


5 posted on 06/29/2013 4:12:07 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: marktwain

Weren’t we just told by the Supreme Court that state Constitutions are NULL AND VOID if a single judge in a single state says so? Seems to me that is the case.

Get ready for your God-given liberties to be usurped by evil men, Americans.


7 posted on 06/29/2013 4:25:12 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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So under the law, is there any way to encourage circuit Judge Winston Kidd to broaden his career horizons?

A couple of years as a graveyard shift clerk at a convenience store might change his attitude toward the rights of law abiding folks to protect themselves as they see fit. Then again, he may be no more qualified as a convenience store clerk than as a judge. America doesn't need another convenience store with stale coffee and a half stocked cooler.

8 posted on 06/29/2013 4:33:50 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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One word “impeach.” The charge would be stupidity unbecoming of a circuit court Judge.


9 posted on 06/29/2013 4:43:32 AM PDT by D Rider
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“State Senator John Horhn, Democrat, of Jackson said “we don’t believe that the constitution provides for open carry.”

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, I may not have my phrasing exactly right. Do our state and federal constitutions “provide” for anything or is their purpose to prohibit actions, specifically prohibit politicians from infringing on our rights? I can’t think of anything in our constitution that prohibits an individual citizen from doing anything.


11 posted on 06/29/2013 5:30:18 AM PDT by suthener
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I have hopes that Gov Bryant will keep pushing and prevail - too many SCOTUS and other court “rulings” that Constitutions don’t mean what they were intended to mean.


12 posted on 06/29/2013 6:41:10 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: marktwain

I have reached that age when wearing a thong is just too uncomfortable.


13 posted on 06/29/2013 6:58:03 AM PDT by Patriot365
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To: suthener; All

The underlying philosophy of the United States legal system, which creates a government of limited powers, is that everything that is not prohibited, is allowed.

Statists prefer a system where everything that is not allowed or mandated, is prohibited.

One has an ocean of liberty with islands of political control.

The other has an ocean of political control, with a few specified islands of liberty.

This often reflects a statists use of legality as a substitute for moral.


14 posted on 06/29/2013 7:22:25 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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16 posted on 06/29/2013 8:15:36 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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Judge Winston L. Kidd
17 posted on 06/29/2013 11:23:50 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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PATHETIC!
18 posted on 06/29/2013 11:30:07 AM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Outrageous!


19 posted on 06/29/2013 11:32:19 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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LOTS of my neighbors were headed to my house on the 4th of July to celebrate Independence AND Open-Carry. Piles of hamburgers and hot dogs. Guess what? Private property. We're doing it anyway. This bastard will fail! I live right up the street from the marina. We will be highly visible to many people come Thursday.

Gonna be a 'front porch thang'. Rain or shine!

20 posted on 06/29/2013 11:41:03 AM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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