Posted on 05/24/2013 6:39:08 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
It is a “President-Elect” who can “fail to qualify” under the provisions of Section 3 of the 20th Amendment. There was no congressional challenge to Obama having qualified and no court has ever ruled that failed to qualify.
Barnett, et. al. v. Obama, US District Court Judge David O. Carter: “There may very well be a legitimate role for the judiciary to interpret whether the natural born citizen requirement has been satisfied in the case of a presidential candidate who has not already won the election and taken office. However, on the day that President Obama took the presidential oath and was sworn in, he became President of the United States. Any removal of him from the presidency must be accomplished through the Constitution’s mechanisms for the removal of a President, either through impeachment or the succession process set forth in the Twenty-Fifth Amendment.
Plaintiffs attempt to subvert this grant of power to Congress by convincing the Court that it should disregard the constitutional procedures in place for the removal of a sitting president. The process for removal of a sitting president—REMOVAL FOR ANY REASON—is within the province of Congress, not the courts.”—U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, October 29, 2009
http://ia600204.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.cacd.435591/gov.uscourts.cacd.435591.89.0.pdf
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I’ve only ever used Usagi_yo on FR. No astroturing accounts for me.
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As for Trolling ... It’s not trolling when they’re jumping in the boat with’ya.
So you quote an opinion that was written by Perkins Coie for David O. Carter?
Perkins Coie and David O. Carter’s opinion doesn’t overrule the Constitution.
Get bent troll.
Neither the US Court of Appeals nor the Supreme Court of the United States reversed Judge Carter’s opinion and both had an opportunity to do so.
David Carter is a United States Marine Lieutenant, combat Vietnam veteran and winner of the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart at the Battle of Khe Sahn. He doesn’t need attorneys to write his opinions for him.
Perkins Coie-Carter can take a flying leap as far as I’m concerned. Their opinions mean nothing.
Carter was a coward and dismissed the case for lack of standing. Typical, easy way out for him.
The corrupt clowns on the Ninth Circuit Appeals affirmed the dismissal, ruling the plaintiffs lacked standing. Gee what a shock. Bogus lack of standing again.
The U.S. Supreme Court declined, without comment, to hear the case. Gee what a shock. Bogus lack of standing again.
Don’t write to me again troll.
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Not likely to ever happen with the “Global Warming”.
I came sooo close to appropriating that as a new tagline. Powerfully and succinctly said.
What country, indeed?
Looks like a failure to “Do It Right The First Time”.
Now, what’s next?
Recommend: Plan/Organize/Collaborate/Centrally collect all factual data & evidence/evaluate potential opposition strategies/Evaluate potential success strategies & probabilities/ACT/DO IT RIGHT!!!
Gitmo is too nice!
Suggest Rat Island, Alaska for all, outdoors with tents and sleeping bags, through the winter stay, give each a baseball bat, check back in June to see how they worked it out.
Possible #5:
( )o( )bama.
Impeachment File on Benghazi Coward B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, a legal citizen of the sovereign Nation of Indonesia.
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Born 1954 in St. Louis, MO
Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U.S. District Court, Eastern District of California
Nominated by George W. Bush on March 21, 2002, to a seat vacated by Lawrence K. Karlton. Confirmed by the Senate on August 1, 2002, and received commission on August 2, 2002. Served as chief judge, 2012-present.
Education:
University of the Pacific, B.A., 1977
University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law, J.D., 1983
Professional Career:
U.S. Army Reserve, 1988-
Private practice, California, 1983-1996
Judge, Superior Court of California, County of Sacramento, 1996-2002
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Then you presumably agree with the 20th Amendment that a President-elect who has “failed to qualify” by Jan 20th cannot **ACT** as President. Right?
The oath of office has nothing to do with when the person becomes President - only with when they can begin to ACT as President. They can never ACT as President if they fail to take the oath and/or they fail to qualify.
Now, what are all the qualifications to be President that are mentioned in the Constitution?
1. He presented his evidence that he is a natural born U.S Citizen.
2. This was deemed sufficient and qualified and placed on the ballot by 50 Secretary of States.
3. He won the General Election and the Collegiate cast their vote for him.
4. The election was certified by the specific governing authority specified in the U.S Constitution. The process is negative affirmation.
5. Not only did he do this once in 2008, but he did it again in 2012.
So, you’re confusing the fact that you don’t like him and that he sucks as a President with him [Obama] being ineligible.
He has never presented any evidence that he is natural born. Using social media rather than legal means he has put online 2 forged images - one of a short-form and one of a long-form. In all the many court cases and ballot challenges, he has never presented ANYTHING official and the court cases have largely been because of the forged BC’s, forged selective service application, breaches of his passport records, and his failure to pass e-verify with the social security number he used on his tax form - one of a couple dozen social security numbers associated with his or his wife’s name.
So exactly when did he present any *evidence* for ANY birth claim he’s made? Fakes don’t count, and suggest he made them because he doesn’t have any genuine document that would prove what he wants to prove.
Federal law codifies the Constitutional requirements for counting the electoral votes. When did Dick Cheney ever ask for objections to any of the 2008 electoral votes as required by law in order to fulfill the Constitution’s procedural requirements establishing an electoral winner? Show me the video of Dick Cheney fulfilling that Constitutional requirement.
You’re acting like a troll, Usagi yo. You’re blasting others for supposedly not having evidence and yet your most basic claim (that Obama has shown evidence that he is a natural born US citizen) is factually wrong. The only things he’s ever shown have been forgeries. You evaded the factual question I asked (What does the Constitution list as the qualifications for being POTUS?) and instead gave a list that, taken together, concludes that because the system says he’s fine I must not know the difference between ineligible and crappy.
Tell Ty Woods’ dad that because the system said everything was done how it needed to be done, they are mistaken that their son is dead and just want something to blame Obama for because they don’t like him.
I’ve argued that Obama is the POTUS but cannot “act as President” because he failed to qualify by Jan 20, 2009 AND Jan 20, 2013. But that probably isn’t even right because he was never even LAWFULLY certified as the electoral winner. In 2012 at least he got the electoral votes through fraud, and in both 2008 and 2012 he got onto the ballot through fraud, forgery, and perjury. He has never met the procedural requirements AND he never met 2 of the QUALIFICATIONS to be POTUS because they can only be determined by a legally valid birth record OR a judicial/administrative determination that a non-valid record is probative - and Onaka has revealed that he has no legally valid HI BC and thus a legal determination has to be made on the probative value of the non-valid BC he’s got. But he’s spent big bucks making sure that no judicial or administrative official or body ever sees that non-valid BC.
Why don’t they ask the Kenyan why he would promote himself as being born in Kenya while at college and while running for Senator? Was there a reason for this? Either way he is lying. If he wasn’t born in Kenya then he was lying while at college and while running for Senate. If he was born in Kenya, then we have probably the biggest case of fraud in US politics.
Exactly! I wish a reporter would ask him that at a press conference. Would be great, but I suppose they want to keep their knees together. He was obviously born in Kenya because he told everyone he was his whole life. The daughters know.
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