BTW, what was your previous name here on FR?
*just so someone questioning the name I said... usagi means 'rabbit' in Japanese...
Posted on 05/24/2013 6:39:08 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
Despite failing in courts across the country, Plaintiffs have continued to file lawsuits alleging that President Obama is ineligible to serve as the American President because he is not a natural born U.S. citizen. However, as set forth above, federal courts cannot grant Plaintiffs the relief sought because the issues which Plaintiffs raise in their pleadings are constitutionally committed to the jurisdiction of another branch of the federal government. If Plaintiffs believe that President Obama has violated the law, their remedy is to alert Congress to the alleged wrongdoing. Congress could then initiate impeachment proceedings with the aid of an independent and special prosecutor.
Plaintiffs could also lobby Congress or the states to pass a Constitutional amendment defining the phrase “natural born citizen” as used in Article II of the Constitution or pass laws requiring presidential candidates to prove their citizenship before taking office. U.S. Const. art. V.
In sum, as fully analyzed above, Plaintiffs’ declaratory relief action is barred by the political question doctrine, is moot, and Plaintiffs lack standing to bring this action. Additionally, the Speech or Debate Clause of the U.S. Constitution bars Plaintiffs’ lawsuit against Congress. Accordingly, the Court grants the motions to dismiss filed by Federal Defendants and California Defendants and dismisses Plaintiffs’ first cause of action without leave to amend. [...]
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“Coup”
Yes...there has never been a case advance far enough to introduce the phony birth certificate
Means that no decision has been rendered on Eligibility.... none
I know some of the Obama Supporter PhonyCons claim that the “courts have ruled”....but there have been no rulings on the merits of the case....no precedent has been set.
The case that could change this is in the Alabama Supreme Court. We just may get a ruling to hear an Eligibility case
Lets make this simple.
Can someone answer the following questions?
Question 1:
Who is the person holding the office of President?
Select one:
1. Barack Hussein Obama II (as listed in (supposed) birth dorucments AND the (incomplete) 1964 divorce papers.
2. Barry Soetoro (as we was known in Indonesia)
3. Barry Obama (as he was known in High School)
4. Barack Hussein Obama (as he currently goes by)
5. Other. List here _________________________
Question 2:
When did he LEGALLY change his name to his name currently in use?
Question 3:
Passports are considered more reliable than birth documents. Given this fact and the fact that the person in question must have had passport records since at least 1967 - will passport records ever be shown?
We do not have a simple question about natural born Citizen definition. Cruz or Rubio may have this question. But at least we know who they are and they have records to prove it.
This is a case of IDENTITY. Who is the person who holds the office of POTUS?
There’s still one left before the cartridge box.
Some states are standing up on their hind legs and asserting their sovereignty.
So, the moving box is still available to us.
Cartridge box is the last, final, and fatal box to reach for.
The moving box?
Brilliant!
And so far, every bit as effective...
1. QUALIFICATION IS NEGATIVE AFFIRMATION.
— Meaning that as long as the governing authorities place him on the ballot, the Electoral College cast their votes for him, then the House and Senate certify the election, then he is deemed to have been eligible.
Obama was elected President, he was placed on the ballot by every single Secretary of State. His EC votes cast their vote for him, and the US CONGRESS CERTIFIED THE ELECTION.
HE is in fact President.
2. There is no revoking, no nullifying, no mulligans, no do-overs. Nothing in the U.S Constitution allows for removal of a sitting elected, certified President *LIKE* Obama other than impeachment at the *SOLE DISCRETION* of the U.S Congress.
Usagi_yo...........would you like Obama to be impeached and removed from office?
” Yeah. My senators Boxer and Feistein will get riiiiiight on that... “
LOL!!
www.whenhellfreezesover.com
BULLSH@$
THE QUALIFICATION IS A POSITIVE AFFIRMATION
"SHALL QUALIFY"
Electoral College cast their votes for him, then the House and Senate certify the election, then he is deemed to have been eligible.
They don't have the power to seat a usurper. They become usurpers themselves.
The Twelfth Amendment says: “The person having the greatest Number of [electoral] votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; “
Therefore the time to stop an ineligible candidate is before the votes of the electors are counted and certified by a Joint Session of Congress during the first week of January. Any two members of Congress (one Representative and one Senator) can stop the certification of the votes of the Electors by submitting written objections to the President of the Senate (the Vice President). In January, 2009 and in January, 2013, no Representative and no Senator submitted written objections to the certification of Obama’s electoral votes.
The Congress has sent Obama scores of bills to sign into law. The Senate has confirmed hundreds of his nominees, some have been confirmed unanimously.
At least ten different courts have ruled that he qualifies as a natural-born citizen.
Here’s just one of those rulings:
Allen v Obama, Arizona Superior Court Judge Richard E. Gordon: “Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise.”—Pima County Superior Court, Tuscon, Arizona, March 7, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/84531299/AZ-2012-03-07-Allen-v-Obama-C20121317-ORDER-Dismissing-Complaint
In 2012 alone there were 50 court challenges to Obama’s eligibility to be on the ballot in 22 different states. No challenge was successful.
What else can be done?
"The person" WHO SHALL QUALIFY
Not just any old ineligible Kenyan shmuck.
Get lost troll.
England, “What? You want me to do my job?”
The best remedy is, and always has been, at the state level.
That is, in Obama's case, all that was ever needed was one state AG to have ordered him removed him from the ballot, which btw, the election authorities in every state have done to candidates since the beginning of the Republic.
They actually NEED NO PROOF per se, the complaint of a citizen or citizens has generally been enough for the proper authorities in every state to at least consider removal of candidates from the ballot, pending either presentation of acceptable bona fides, or a removed candidate bringing a successful suit in state courts for reinstatement.
Alone, the suspicious and murky nature of Obama's documentation would have been quite enough. In point of fact, the election authorities in every state have this power through their state constitutions and it can be quite arbitrary!
In Obama's case, removal from any state's ballot would most likely have resulted in a suit, which would have fast-tracked it to the SCOTUS, no matter which side prevailed in the state courts. Although Obama, like Lincoln, could have chosen to remain off that particular state's ballot, that would have been political suicide.
In short, the solution had always been to force Team Obama to become Plaintiffs rather than Defendants on the state level. If Team Obama were to be the Plaintiffs, there of course could be no issue of standing.
This will be the only way to get a SCOTUS ruling or interpretation of Article II for Rubio, Jindal, Cruz, et al.
I do not mean to minimize the difficulties on the state level, where the stumbling block has been that state courts have generally refused to hear citizens' suits to force their state officials to do their duty. ( i.e., asking for a Writ of Mandamus)
FRiends, the Judge is unfortunately for constitutionalists, correct.
Since then, the CCP's proof has been meticulously strengthened, but has fared even worse in their quest to have anyone with the power to use it, to validate it. Who will indict? Who is to prosecute?
No one.
Shouldn’t this be good news. The court is not automatcally assuming nor buying other lower court declarations that Obama is eligible for office. Also, it doesn’t express any confidence in Obama’s legitimacy if he’s suggesting that a special prosecutor should be appointed. What happened to calling these “frivolous” charges?? This should be a massive public relations victory against the Kenyan in the White House.
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