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Judge England: Dismisses Obama Identity Fraud Case; Go To U.S. Congress & Seek Special Prosecutor
http://www.scribd.com/doc/143338374/Grinols-v-Electoral-College-Dismissal-CA-Obama-ID-Fraud-Case-Judge-England-5-23-2013 ^ | 5-23-13

Posted on 05/24/2013 6:39:08 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

Despite failing in courts across the country, Plaintiffs have continued to file lawsuits alleging that President Obama is ineligible to serve as the American President because he is not a natural born U.S. citizen. However, as set forth above, federal courts cannot grant Plaintiffs the relief sought because the issues which Plaintiffs raise in their pleadings are constitutionally committed to the jurisdiction of another branch of the federal government. If Plaintiffs believe that President Obama has violated the law, their remedy is to alert Congress to the alleged wrongdoing. Congress could then initiate impeachment proceedings with the aid of an independent and special prosecutor.

Plaintiffs could also lobby Congress or the states to pass a Constitutional amendment defining the phrase “natural born citizen” as used in Article II of the Constitution or pass laws requiring presidential candidates to prove their citizenship before taking office. U.S. Const. art. V.

In sum, as fully analyzed above, Plaintiffs’ declaratory relief action is barred by the political question doctrine, is moot, and Plaintiffs lack standing to bring this action. Additionally, the Speech or Debate Clause of the U.S. Constitution bars Plaintiffs’ lawsuit against Congress. Accordingly, the Court grants the motions to dismiss filed by Federal Defendants and California Defendants and dismisses Plaintiffs’ first cause of action without leave to amend. [...]

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To: twistedwrench

I count two.

The ammo box.
The pine box.


21 posted on 05/24/2013 7:16:03 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Get right on it. I nominate YOU to ask him that question. Waiting, waiting ......


22 posted on 05/24/2013 7:16:20 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Seriously. Did we really expect anything else. Moner is being handed under the table left and right in this administration and if that doesn’t work intimidation, blackmail, or even assassinations are to follow.


23 posted on 05/24/2013 7:22:53 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: fwdude

There is no provision in the U.S constitution for INVALIDATION of office for the President. You cannot make up your own rules. The Constitution is clear on validation, certification, and how to remove a sitting President.

You cannot pick and choose which part of the constitution you agree with.


24 posted on 05/24/2013 7:23:24 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: null and void
We’ve used the soap box.
We’ve used the ballot box.
We’ve used the jury box...

Do you think it's possible that someone out of utter frustration would decide to use the pine box?

25 posted on 05/24/2013 7:28:07 AM PDT by varon (USA Nationalist)
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To: varon

Yes. The suicide rate under Obama has skyrocketed.


26 posted on 05/24/2013 7:30:49 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of opression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: Usagi_yo

” and how to remove a sitting President.”

What about how to remove a person who subverted Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution to usurp the presidency?


27 posted on 05/24/2013 7:33:47 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Paladin2

Congress hasn’t bothered to try clamping down on Obama’s excesses, nevermind his extra-constitutional activities. I doubt they’re going to bother on his eligibility.

The judiciary? Lol


28 posted on 05/24/2013 7:35:00 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Usagi_yo
You cannot make up your own rules. The Constitution is clear on validation, certification, and how to remove a sitting President.

Unless he's NOT the sitting president, by virtue of his ineligibility.

By analogy, imagine a coup results in a dictator declaring himself president of the United States, without any of the Constitutional processes followed. Would such a "president" be legitimate? Would he need to be impeached?

No, he claimed the position unconstitutionally. His claimed position would just be declared never valid.

29 posted on 05/24/2013 7:41:07 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Vendome
Sort of. In this instance, the judge said he lacked jurisdiction - that ALL judges lack jurisdiction to decide the issue. That the issue is to be decided by Congress, and that the issue is a political question, not a matter of law.

And, I can see Congress doing similar, pointing to a Court and saying it's the court's job, or that a court already decided this (Wong Kim Ark), therefore it is settled.

None of 'em have the decency or fortitude to address the issue head on.

30 posted on 05/24/2013 7:49:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: fwdude
The court is saying that it lacks the power to remove a president, but that Congress has the power of removal.
31 posted on 05/24/2013 7:51:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: TomGuy
"Roberts basically reduced the SC to a mid-morning brunch."

They just get paid to say "it's not my job."

Traitor John "It's not my job" Roberts only stops by to pick up his paycheck.

Same with all these judges. The law is only for the little people.

They just talk in circles and take the money and benefits.

The old joke is true don't steal something small like a loaf of bread, steal the presidency instead. One goes to jail the other gets Air force One and the entire US Government to use as against his victims. Amazing. Truly amazing.

They should all be in Gitmo. Traitors. Every last one of them.

32 posted on 05/24/2013 8:00:35 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Usagi_yo

Stop butchering the Constitution.

These are circular logic games by corrupt coward lawyers, politicians, and judges. Scum.

HE HAS NEVER “SHALL QUALIFY”

NOBODY HAD/HAS THE POWER TO SEAT A USURPER

HE’S NEVER BEEN PRESIDENT.

HE CAN’T BE IMPEACHED BUT HE CAN BE REMOVED AND PUT IN GITMO


33 posted on 05/24/2013 8:04:55 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

UNTOUCHABLE. Sad, but true. Obama will run out his term, and in the last hours pardoning hundreds of felons, and then retiring on his embezzled wealth to his multi-million dollar mansion on the black slopes of Hawaii, where he will golf and schmooze with his fellow gangsters, and giggle with “the shelf” while snarfing back mint juleps. It pains me to have said that, but I’m afraid it’s shaping up to be so.


34 posted on 05/24/2013 8:11:05 AM PDT by Scooter100 (A balanced budget means Banksters lose $Billion$.)
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To: Cboldt
"None of 'em have the decency or fortitude to address the issue head on."

But they all have the fortitude to pick up their paychecks don't they?

They all out to brunch with Lois Lerner laughing their asses off.

35 posted on 05/24/2013 8:12:54 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
It is getting impossible to win with the our communists controlled government. King Obama is our dictator and no stupid judge will upset the king.
36 posted on 05/24/2013 8:14:05 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Menehune56

Yep like that book, he blames it on the publisher making a mistake. How? How do they make a mistake like that? My mother was born in Scotland, my father was born in New York as was I. So if I wrote a book and the publisher put “was born in Scotland” where would he or she get that from? There is only one possible answer: From me! Same with the Kenyan, the publisher got it from him. What other possible answer is there? That the publisher assumed? But wait a minute, why would she assume when he has an American accent? Why would she assume that when his Kenyan father was completely out of his life and there was nothing around to suggest he was born in Kenya? No, the only possible answer is HE said he was born in Kenya! Why would he say that? It’s fraud either way...If he wasn’t born in Kenya then he was scamming his college. If he was born in Kenya, then he is scamming the entire country.


37 posted on 05/24/2013 8:17:01 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

dismissed in order to avoid the requirement of the defense OFFICIALLY SUBMITTING the phoney birth certificate

over dozens of cases... not a single one has yet reached the stage to require submitting into evidence the birth certificate by the defense


38 posted on 05/24/2013 8:17:46 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

P1, L24 typo, left out CA Gov’s last name. Off to a roaring start.


39 posted on 05/24/2013 8:20:18 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

There wasn’t just a coop in 2008 but...The ENTIRE US GOVERNMENT WENT ROGUE in obedience.

They will do whatever the hell they want.

The law is only for the tax paying serfs. It’s irrelevant for any government drone and the ELITE OLIGARCHY.


40 posted on 05/24/2013 8:23:24 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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