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FBI: Agents died in fall from helicopter off Va. coast
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | May 20, 2013 | By Scott Daugherty

Posted on 05/23/2013 5:21:45 AM PDT by RummyChick

Two members of the FBI’s elite counterterrorism unit died Friday while practicing how to quickly drop from a helicopter to a ship using a rope, the FBI announced Monday in a statement.

The statement gave few details regarding the deaths of Special Agents Christopher Lorek and Stephen Shaw, other than to say the helicopter encountered unspecified difficulties and the agents fell a “significant distance.”

Last month, the team was involved in the arrest of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings. And in February, it rescued a 5-year-old boy held hostage for six days in an underground bunker in Alabama.

“Whenever things go really wrong, the FBI calls in the Hostage Rescue Team. It’s the government’s 911,” Coulson said.

Irvin Wells, a former FBI special agent who retired in 1990 after leading the Norfolk field office for three years, stressed that the Hostage Rescue Team is different from the FBI’s regular SWAT teams. He noted that agents assigned to a field office’s SWAT team also must perform other jobs inside the bureau, while agents assigned to the Hostage Rescue Team have no other duties.


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To: RummyChick

http://hamptonroads.com/2013/05/fbi-agents-died-fall-helicopter-va-coast

Seems a bit suspicious but think about this:
Submitted by 63impala on Mon, 05/20/2013 at 2:34 pm.

From my experience of more than 24 years and a retired Warrant, seems like this may have been a case of one man entering a space(void) and being ovecome by hydrogen sulfide(H2S). It can hit you quick. The other guy sees his teammate down & reflexively goes to help - Wham - now he’s down. Happens more often than you’d like to think. Thats why sailors are ALWAYS trained to never enter a space with a man down w/o OBA. Was a case back in the 80s of 4 sailors killed one after the other cause they were trying to save the ones that went in before them and they all ended up dead. Maybe a case of the MSC not clearing the ship for H2S or the team not knowing which spaces they shouldnt go into.

I’m jus’ sayin’


21 posted on 05/23/2013 5:34:52 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
I haven't taken off the tinfoil yet but how “involved” are we talking here? Were they actual witnesses to the arrest?

There was something like 10,000 storm troopers on the ground

22 posted on 05/23/2013 5:35:19 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: maggief

Was just reading it. Hair was already up wondering about the shoot to kill of the colleague of bombers in Florida. He supposedly had confessed why shoot to kill?


23 posted on 05/23/2013 5:36:02 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.u)
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To: RummyChick

I found this. It has more details, but still is just odd.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/21/us/2-fbi-agents-die-in-counterterrorism-training-exercise-at-sea.html?_r=0


24 posted on 05/23/2013 5:36:17 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: RummyChick

25 posted on 05/23/2013 5:36:39 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (If I had a tag line this is where you would find it)
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To: TomGuy

How many onboard that Chinook took part in Neptune Spear?


26 posted on 05/23/2013 5:36:39 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro can't pass E-verify)
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To: RummyChick
2 FBI Agents Involved in Dzhokar Tsarnaev's Arrest "FALL" Out of Helicopter and Die

Well, it was either that or an IRS audit, and Lois Lerner et al is too high profile at the moment.

27 posted on 05/23/2013 5:36:48 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: RummyChick

Combine with the Tsarnaev’s “friend” who was killed this week in Florida by an FBI agent and it sure sounds like someone is cleaning up loose ends.


28 posted on 05/23/2013 5:37:41 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: thesearethetimes...

I would say they were there doing this:

“Over the years, the unit, which has a little fewer than 100 agents, has responded to roughly 850 episodes, including the bombings at the Boston Marathon last month. In that instance, agents from the unit were sent from Quantico after the attacks to deal with finding other explosives in the city. They have also responded to episodes in Iraq and Afghanistan.”


29 posted on 05/23/2013 5:38:55 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Yep the circle keeps growing:

Tamerlan Tsarnaev and 3rd Muslim Killer Responsible for Murder of 3 Jews on September 11

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3022865/posts


30 posted on 05/23/2013 5:40:37 AM PDT by deport
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To: ilgipper

High profile fatalities were common during the Clinton administration. Among them, planes transporting FOB (”Friends of Bill”) seemed to rain from the skies. Nothing weird about it when you consider all that stopped during the Bush presidency, and it’s now resumed.


31 posted on 05/23/2013 5:42:06 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: deport

Has anyone checked out the info on the dead people?

The Uncle has some really scary contacts- especially Chechen Mafia related.


32 posted on 05/23/2013 5:42:44 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“Fast roping” from a helicpter

In fast roping you are not attached to the rope (which is
3 x normal rope)

Sudden movement from helicopter caused by wind shift or
updrafts as wind travels around superstructure

Realistic training like this is very dangerous and
accidents happen....


33 posted on 05/23/2013 5:43:00 AM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: RummyChick

There’s no reason to do rope training at lethal fall levels.

This training was carried out at a lethal height. Why was that?


34 posted on 05/23/2013 5:47:52 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: RummyChick

What are the odds?


35 posted on 05/23/2013 5:48:20 AM PDT by browniexyz
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To: RummyChick

All of this is pointing towards Dzhokhar joining is brother in Hades sooner rather than later, as a result of some unfortunate pretrial accident.


36 posted on 05/23/2013 5:50:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: RummyChick

Many strange things with the FBI lately, investigating acts of war on the U.S. overseas, getting killed in search and rescue? Hiring high class hookers to smear military Generals with e-mail seems to be about their threshold of danger.


37 posted on 05/23/2013 5:52:36 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: RummyChick

Everyone associated with the Boston bombing - the original muslim terrorists, their terrorist backers, their terrorist friends, the police and other law enforcement involved, the fellow who was “carjacked,” the guy who discovered the terrorist in his boat, any other civilians with which the regime can determine came into contact with any of the above, are all at risk for “accidental death” or similar sort of demise.


38 posted on 05/23/2013 5:53:51 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Yes, a little too much of a coincidence


39 posted on 05/23/2013 5:57:41 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: RummyChick

At first glance I thought these agents had been involved in the questioning of Dzhokhar that was abruptly halted. That would have been just too much a coincident. That they were involved in the arrest isn’t quite as suspicious.


40 posted on 05/23/2013 6:00:40 AM PDT by Will88
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