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1 posted on 05/17/2013 3:11:23 PM PDT by Kartographer
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Please consider this our weekly Preppers’ Thread to post progress, good buys, DIY projects, questions, advice and ideas....


2 posted on 05/17/2013 3:13:29 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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So who are the creditors when the rest of the world is broke as well? Who can physically collect what is owed on the debt? An internationally agreed upon debt jubilee where all debt everywhere owed to everyone is summarily cancelled is probably the way to go! Unfortunately, a very evil person will probably be at the helm of it all and certain economic and biometric controls will be imposed on folks in order for anyone to take part in the debt relief revolution!


4 posted on 05/17/2013 3:19:10 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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Everyone should see the movie, Too Big To Fail. Or read the book.


5 posted on 05/17/2013 3:24:20 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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Bubble goes

POP!

and we all fall down.

7 posted on 05/17/2013 3:26:49 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drag Me From Hell!)
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So who are the creditors when the rest of the world is broke as well? Who can physically collect what is owed on the debt? An internationally agreed upon debt jubilee where all debt everywhere owed to everyone is summarily cancelled is probably the way to go! Unfortunately, a very evil person will probably be at the helm of it all and certain economic and biometric controls will be imposed on folks in order for anyone to take part in the debt relief revolution!


10 posted on 05/17/2013 3:33:30 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Rest assured, Mankind is loved....both completely and severely!)
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The creditors are the US taxpayers until the tree of liberty is refreshed.


14 posted on 05/17/2013 4:13:59 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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Sams (online) has $300 off their Food Storage Kit. Item #484863. Offer good from May15 - June 9. If you’re a Sams Club member.


15 posted on 05/17/2013 4:15:40 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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Pop goes the weasel-ers: i.e., the lion’s share of the Western worlds aristocrates. Unfortunately, the weasel-ees will (in general) pay more dearly for this MOOTA scam (Money-Out-Of-Thin-Air); the crime of world history...


16 posted on 05/17/2013 4:20:08 PM PDT by veracious
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Posts like this inspire me to buy more stocks. The market climbs a wall of worry.


18 posted on 05/17/2013 4:29:06 PM PDT by montag813
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Maybe Gorebull Warming will get us first (snort).


19 posted on 05/17/2013 4:35:59 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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Anyone got any suggestions on non-chemical (doesn’t have to be reapplied after rain) means of keeping mosquitos away?


27 posted on 05/17/2013 5:32:04 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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mREIT’s will be the first to fall.


32 posted on 05/17/2013 6:45:29 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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I can't stop the bubble from busting but when it does I've got a box that is 16 inches x 14 inches x 18 inches tall and it has enough potty wipes for four people for a year and that was less than $50. That is done. And, spent $10 for 1,320 tissues for women to use and that fits in the same box. Small storage, huge benefit.

And, I kept putting off buying Dak ham and bought two cans recently and need to buy a bunch more. There is no meat in the professionally packed long term food, so have been buying canned meat in various forms for a long time but need to add the ham.

I have store bought food that will last, plus canned meat, and when all the store bought food is gone, then the long term food will start with canned meat to add to it.

If my effort to grow food in my garden works, there will be fresh plant food to add to the grocery store food and the long term food on a ongoing basis.

All I can do is control what I can to prepare for whatever may happen and that's what I do. My immediate interest in the future is whether or not a hurricane will come my way this summer/fall. If it does, I'm ready right now.

33 posted on 05/17/2013 7:03:42 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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Where can a guy buy lime from?


34 posted on 05/17/2013 7:06:37 PM PDT by Sawdring
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Well, I knew as soon as the oil prices spiked as well as the 2008 collapse that food prices would be going up. So I went out and bought all the necessities and things we like that I could pay for.

Then I started planning how I would provide if inflation got so bad that I wouldn’t be able to afford the things we need for a nutritious diet. That’s when the gardening hobby turned into a focus on becoming self sufficient in growing food, and other things, like beer, wine, and fuel.

I was fortunate to have moved half of my measly amount of stocks/mutual funds into treasuries in november of 2007. Have been withdrawing some of that and buying silver coins on the dips.

While bartering with your stash of stuff is probably going to be the main way to obtain whatever you need, I am thinking some silver and cash is necessary - especially for people who are making payments on their home.

Inflation will be reflected in Real Estate Taxes, Insurance, etc. Silver helps to hedge against that. When the shtf, silver can have a place too.

At some point the finanacial institutions will be looking for payments, so I am thinking some cash on hand for that to last as long as your prepping supplies. Then enough silver for a year’s worth of payments.

Also, you will be needing to pay your real estate taxes. So stash cash for the first year and then some silver. Whatever the inflation rate is, the silver should keep the pace so that you will be able to make the house payment and pay taxes.

We have a house on 2 acres fully paid for, but it’s about a 3 hour drive from where we are living. If it looks like we won’t be able to hang onto this place, for good we should be able to stay for a year or two and that gives us time to get new gardens and fruits going there if we have to.

We also have 22 acres about 20 minutes away with a stream, so that’s another fall back that we could get ready during the first year or so.

But we’ll be better off if we can just hang on where we are, so I continue to focus on that.

I have some very long term supplies like wheat, rice, beans, flour, oats, powdered milk etc. that is supposed to be good for 30 years, so I don’t really have to rotate it, just check it. If canned veggies go on sale, I buy 2 or 3 cases. If meat goes on sale, I buy extra and can it in my pressure cooker. I have a big stash of sugar, and a recipe to make sugar from beets. In addition I have plenty of honey and syrup. I am also growing sorgham this year to experiment with making sorgham syrup.

I am gradually building up those supplies to a goal of 1 year for 10 people. I have a long ways to go. But I do have 3 months for everyone of the most stable and necessary food items. Three months gets me to the next planting season, so that relieves the pressure a bit.

Next month, I will begin to add some things such as battery operated fans, extra batteries for it and a way to recharge them, as I continue to concentrate on building up the food supplies, and medical stuff.


39 posted on 05/17/2013 8:39:13 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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QE is accomplishing the debauchment of the US Dollar. The IRS takes in $2.5 Trillion and the Federal Budget spends $3.75Trillion per year.

Not only that, admitted public debt is now $18Trillion (off balance sheet debt is nearly $100Trillion), the interest alone on public debt is $2.5Trillion and Entitlements also are $2.5Trillion. The printing presses are printing up dollars to the tune of an extra trillion per year and it is not going into the economy, but into the Wall Street casino - none of it trickles down to the unemployed, huddled masses.

From Keynes' "The Economic Consequences of the Peace":

Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the capitalist system was to debauch the currency.

By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. The sight of this arbitrary rearrangement of riches strikes not only at security, but at confidence in the equity of the existing distribution of wealth. Those to whom the system brings windfalls, beyond their deserts and even beyond their expectations or desires, become 'profiteers,' who are the object of the hatred of the bourgeoisie, whom the inflationism has impoverished, not less than of the proletariat.

As the inflation proceeds and the real value of the currency fluctuates wildly from month to month, all permanent relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost meaningless; and the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble and a lottery.

Lenin was certainly right.
There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.

Can you say QE?
What do you think happens when you have $2.5Trillion in income, but budget $3.75Trillion and have $100Trillion in debt, pay $2.5Trillion in interest on that debt and must pay $2.5Trillion for entitlements.


More frightening is the fact that Obama's closest friend and advisor, William Ayers once said that some 25 million Americans would need to be murdered when the time came to finish their long planned revolution.


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These two books can give a good blueprint as to where we are headed.

You can get the second one for free here, I would recommend reading it. Get it now while you can...

When Money Dies

48 posted on 05/18/2013 12:15:22 AM PDT by Bon mots
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It occurred to me that I haven’t had a tetanus booster in quite a few decades and that maybe I should prepare by getting one. Does anyone have any other recommendations for medical upgrades while I’m at it? Thanks,
56 posted on 05/18/2013 12:05:00 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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