Posted on 05/15/2013 3:59:44 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
43. Investigators requested an independent review of our findings in respect to the long-form birth certificate image that fell within his field of expertise.
44. Upon the conclusion of our expert’s examination he issued an independent 40 page forensic report in which he verified our investigational finding and validating conclusion in full agreement with the finds of investigators. He concluded:
• “…based on my observations and findings, it is clear that Certificate of Live Birth I examined is not a scan of an original paper birth certificate, but a digitally manufactured documented created by utilizing material from various sources.” and
• “In over 20 years of examining documentation of various types, I have never seen a document that is so seriously questionable in so many respects. In my opinion, the birth certificate is entirely fabricated.”
Authenticity of White House Released Birth Certificate Image
45. Investigators have determined beyond probable cause that the computer image released on April 27, 2011 by the White House, and purporting to be a true computer copy of Mr. Obama’s long form birth certificate, is not a scan of an original hard copy document. It is, in fact, an undeniable computer generated forgery created with the sole intent to deceive the public by commission of felonious fraudulent acts.
46. Sheriff Arpaio’s investigators have determined the document ( the .pdf file released by the White House) was created entirely by human intervention, and not by the actions of random computerization. As such, the White house computer image cannot be relied upon as bona fide factual record of the birth event that it attempts to depict. [...]
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How about a famous phrase...
“Ich bin ein Birther!”
I've mentioned my theory numerous times. Obama was adopted by Soetoro. When the Adoption was annulled, or redone in 1971, the state created a new replacement birth certificate.
Of course this current document is computer generated, so sometime between 1971 and 2011, Obama had Hawaii create him a new one. I'm betting it's a legal fake.
Totally agree that in 1971 the official records were ‘re-baselined’. Everything before that is likely in the legal worm-hole when it comes to actual facts and records.
But the LFBC (Laughably Fake Birth Certificate) posted at WH is a modern creation. It is certainly not a scan of actual document. Even if the document is a ‘legal fake’.
In this regard the COLB from 2008 was a better forgery. At least someone did create an actual document. And they took trophy pictures of their work in March 2008. And those became the Fact Check ‘Born in the USA’ pictures in August.
The problem for them is they used very high resolution images. They also left the EXIF data in the files - at first. And they took a flat-bed scan. The combination of these makes the determination of fraud rather easy, very easy.
The BCs are sideshows. Lets see the passport records. Passports are considered stronger proof of identity and citizenship than BCs anyway. Obama should have at least 4 or so previous passports dating back to 1968. Notice I did not say US passports!
1968 passport records and 1971 court records. That would clear all this up.
On her website, Orly Taitz is slamming Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo stating the affidavit carries no weight in the appeal.
Taitz should keep her mouth shut. She looks like an attention whore drama queen.
I completely agree Ray. If there was a way for her to get involved with the Alabama Supreme Court appeal and sabotage it, she would.
“On her website, Orly Taitz is slamming Sheriff Arpaio and Mike Zullo stating the affidavit carries no weight in the appeal.”
An appeal is not an evidentiary event, but the Obot lawyers are trying to get the AL Supremes to “take judicial notice” of what they claim is evidence of Barry’s HI birth.
Klayman is properly telling the court that it is improper for any evidence to be introduced in this appeal, but “in the alternative” as the lawyers like to say, should the AL Supremes actually consider the newly fabricated 3rd forgery, Klayman is asking that the court also take judicial notice of Zullo’s affidavit.
Neither the WH pdf (any version of it) nor Zullo’s certified expert finding of forgery have been “proved up” (entered into evidence under the federal rules of evidence) in any proper discovery hearing by a trial court, so neither one should be considered by the court at this time, IMO.
Additionally there is binding precedent in Alabama concerning evidence not introduced at trial being ignored on appeal.
There are several Alabama Supreme Court cases that said that appeals courts will not take judicial notice of new evidence.
EX PARTE BAKER 459 So.2d 873 (1984) – “In determining whether the trial court abused its discretion, this court is bound by the record and cannot consider a statement or evidence in brief that was not before the trial court.”
EX PARTE EPHRAIM 806 So.2d 352 (2001) – “This Court does not review evidence presented for the first time on appeal.”
Both the Democrats’ Amicus Brief and the Zullo affidavit are likely to be ignored.
A person can get a copy of his Social Security application for a small fee in a few days.
So, I would think that the President of the United States would have no trouble getting a copy of his Social Security application whenever he wants it.
States: They should require presidential candidates to present a copy of their Social Security application along with their copy of their birth certificates.
What is Obama hiding that is in his Social Security application?
“Both the Democrats’ Amicus Brief and the Zullo affidavit are likely to be ignored.”
True, but both affidavits are tactical PR stunts from the two camps...but with one BIG difference.
The Zullo affidavit (sworn under penalty of perjury) is a nearly complete criminal indictment of the party or parties that forged Barry’s BC. Zullo claims have a certification of the legal certainty of the forgery by an expert that is court certified (to meet the Daubert standard).
The Zullo affidavit destroys the Obot affidavit which offers NO claim of having any expert certification of authenticity for their BC image.
Therefore the Zullo affidavit is a roadmap for any brave state attorney general or county district attorney to empanel a grand jury to prepare an indictment of the forgers of Barry’s White House pdf BC. If Hawaii were not in the grip of criminal co-conspirators, the Zullo affidavit could be the basis of a criminal forgery investigation there and also of criminal conspiracy by state officials to conceal the original vital records and authenticate the forgery.
Zullo and Arpaio have shown all state and federal officers sworn to uphold the constitution the evidence that will be available in any discovery hearing by a trail court on the merits the next time such a hearing takes place.
The ball is now fully in the court of the Obot legal team to find an equally qualified expert to rebut Zullo’s expert. John Woodman’s embarrassingly inadequate resume obviously doesn’t meet the expert witness requirements for certification under the Daubert standard as explained in detail in Zullo’s affidavit.
1. In six months from the date of recent Boston bombs, we will probably know all that we will want to know about the two Moslem Boston Bombers, even what they liked to eat for breakfast.
2. But in the almost 6 to 8 years that Obama has come on to the public stage, we really know very little about him.
3. My point is this: We know more about the Boston Bombers than we know about our own President. That is so sad.
4. For instance, Kapiolani Hospital, the hospital name on Obama's birth certificate, has not come out and officially proclaimed to the world that Obama was born there.
5. For instance, we know for a fact that there is no record that Obama ever worked from the first day that he enrolled in Occidental in California to the day he graduated from Columbia in New York 4 years later. How did he support himself? Am I to believe that he lived off student loans all those 4 years?
6. For instance, during his time at Columbia, he went to Pakistan. Who paid for that expensive flight from New York to Pakistan? Did his relatives or his Pakistani friends pay for it? Did he dare use college loan money?
7. Sad to say, but we know more about the recent Boston Bombers than we know about President Obama. Sad.
Nah, the affidavit would need to be introduced in an original jurisdiction proceeding for it to have probative value.
Since Obama is not a party to the Alabama appeal, his legal representation will ignore it, as will the Alabama government attorneys representing the defendant.
You don’t fight in legal fights that you weren’t asked to join and the Alabama squabble is a Republican-only affair: Republican plaintiffs, Republican defendant, and 9 Republicans on the state Supreme Court.
“Zullo and Arpaio have shown all state and federal officers sworn to uphold the constitution the evidence that will be available in any discovery hearing by a trail court on the merits the next time such a hearing takes place.”
From the for what its worth department, recently there was an exchange between someone claiming to be an ex-deputy county prosecutor from Arizona and the folks at Obama Ballot Challenge.
The alleged prosecutor’s contention is that there will never be a criminal case (for various reasons with jurisdiction being the main one).
In the comments section (Lillie v. George M>).
I'm not buying it. I'm not saying that states can't create a fresh birth certificate for someone in the case of adoption, but rather that I don't think that's the case with this Frankendocument.
If it's a "legal fake," then why won't HDOH take ownership of it by affirming that what's posted on the WH servers is a true copy/representation of the "record" on file?
“Nah, the affidavit would need to be introduced in an original jurisdiction proceeding for it to have probative value.”
Here is what I said:
“Zullo and Arpaio have shown all state and federal officers sworn to uphold the constitution the evidence that will be available in any discovery hearing by a trail court on the merits the next time such a hearing takes place.”
They aren't allowed to do that. It is a violation of Hawaii's privacy laws. The provenance of Adopted Children's birth certificates has always been protected by official state coverup of the truth.
Agree w you. I used to be in the ‘legal fake’ camp until someone—iirc, Carp—forced me to think it through a little more thoroughly. The sticking point is this: if it’s a legal fake, then Kapiolani IS the hospital where Obama was born. But if that is true, why did Obama’s camp identify another hospital, on multiple occasions, as the place of his birth? Also, why DID Kapiolani remove Obama’s letter thanking them for delivering him? If they really did it, why is that letter not proudly displayed to this day?
Unless compelling *independent* evidence emerges definitely fixing Kapiolani as the birth hospital, Obama’s LF BC is an illegal fake. Fwiw.
A low information attention span might ignore or laugh at a poke or two from a blunt pillow, but not from one of the sharpened pikes we normally decorate with the heads of treasonous hacks and con men.
That's the obama BC picture that's coming into focus, even for those lo-info types: We've been lied to and conned.
Not likely this goes on for the full eight years, especially not if the misery and fear of GuvCo indexes continue to climb.
The alleged former prosecutor did not day that. "Lille" only claimed that jurisdiction for a forgery lies only where the forgery was committed. That was months ago before this affidavit was filed.
Arpaio and Zullo are pointing to evidence that THREE crimes have been committed with the third one clearly being in the jurisdiction of Maricopa Co. and AZ or any state or country in the US for that matter.
From the affidavit:
153. Investigators have advised Sheriff Arpaio that several possible crimes may have been committed:
154. First, the fraudulent creation of an official document
155. Second, the White House characterizing a forgery as an officially-produced governmental birth record; and
156. Third, Mr. Obama represented to the residents of Maricopa County and the American public that a forgery was “proof positive” of his authentic 1961 Hawaiian long-form birth certificate, thereby deceiving voters and state election commissions across the country into believing he was eligible to become President, have his name appear on Presidential ballots, thereby garnering votes from the public under false pretenses.
157. Accordingly, Sheriff Arpaio continues to recommend that the Congress of the United States open an immediate investigation, including the appointment of a select committee, as regards to the authenticity of Mr. Obama’s documentation, whether any crimes have been committed, and to determine Mr. Obama’s eligibility for the office of President of the Unites States.
Good analysis. Though I must say the ‘one stream media’ created an unwanted image in my mind. [Think what my wee macho-male dog does to a fire hydrant.] Thanks. (Just kidding. If that is what you actually meant by ‘one stream’ then I cd not agree more.)
I noticed that media watchers made a huge deal out of Jon Stewart eviscerating Obama for a couple of items. [One, confirming conservatives/Tea partiers are right when they allege illegal governmental targeting, & two, claiming he doesn’t know anything about anything unless he sees it on the TV news.] Supposedly when Stewart goes at you hard, it means you’re losing w the most critical age group. If that is the case, Obama is well & truly on the skids.
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