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To: Seizethecarp

“Zullo and Arpaio have shown all state and federal officers sworn to uphold the constitution the evidence that will be available in any discovery hearing by a trail court on the merits the next time such a hearing takes place.”

From the for what its worth department, recently there was an exchange between someone claiming to be an ex-deputy county prosecutor from Arizona and the folks at Obama Ballot Challenge.

The alleged prosecutor’s contention is that there will never be a criminal case (for various reasons with jurisdiction being the main one).

In the comments section (Lillie v. George M>).

http://obamaballotchallenge.com/moving-the-arpaio-investigation-of-obamas-identification-documents-forward#commentarea


53 posted on 05/16/2013 1:32:26 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan
"The alleged prosecutor’s contention is that there will never be a criminal case (for various reasons with jurisdiction being the main one)."

The alleged former prosecutor did not day that. "Lille" only claimed that jurisdiction for a forgery lies only where the forgery was committed. That was months ago before this affidavit was filed.

Arpaio and Zullo are pointing to evidence that THREE crimes have been committed with the third one clearly being in the jurisdiction of Maricopa Co. and AZ or any state or country in the US for that matter.

From the affidavit:

153. Investigators have advised Sheriff Arpaio that several possible crimes may have been committed:

154. First, the fraudulent creation of an official document

155. Second, the White House characterizing a forgery as an officially-produced governmental birth record; and

156. Third, Mr. Obama represented to the residents of Maricopa County and the American public that a forgery was “proof positive” of his authentic 1961 Hawaiian long-form birth certificate, thereby deceiving voters and state election commissions across the country into believing he was eligible to become President, have his name appear on Presidential ballots, thereby garnering votes from the public under false pretenses.

157. Accordingly, Sheriff Arpaio continues to recommend that the Congress of the United States open an immediate investigation, including the appointment of a select committee, as regards to the authenticity of Mr. Obama’s documentation, whether any crimes have been committed, and to determine Mr. Obama’s eligibility for the office of President of the Unites States.

59 posted on 05/16/2013 3:11:56 PM PDT by Seizethecarp ((Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: 4Zoltan
It all depends on the wording of the Mandamus [if granted by the Alabama supreme court and effectively enforced on Beth Chapman]

This is a civil case against the SOS, but that dosn’t meen splash damage from Beth Chapman being forced to do her job can't undermine Obama.

Hawaii DOH is not unified under Fuddy, there is a faction that still wishes to obey the law. If Beth Chapman is forced to investigate candidate eligibility in a step by step methodical way, at some point a whistle-blower may call time on the whole con game.

If sufficient political damage is done to Obama, and enough new scandal revealed, congress may impeach him itself if for no other reason than to save the Democrat congressmen, especially Senators, up for re-election in 2014 or 2016.

72 posted on 05/17/2013 9:48:06 AM PDT by Exmil_UK
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