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Posted on 05/02/2013 8:45:09 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
The horrific crash of a 747-400 at Bagram (here) has yet to be fully investigated and claims are already being made that it was a stall caused by a loose cargo that caused tail of the aircraft to drop and the nose to rise depriving the wings of lift.
Maybe.
The Bagram 747 crash has many similarities to the even more horrific crash of AWACS flight Yukla-27, (here) which was caused by the aircraft striking at least two Canada Geese in the Runway Kill Zone (RKZ) as discussed on an earlier post on this blog (here).
Terrorists familiar with the vulnerability of large jet airliners in the RKZ could produce a nearly identical or very similar crash profile to the Bagram event. They could do this by mining the Bagram runway with autonomous GPS-guided multi-copters placed exactly where they would collide with each jet turbine as the 747-400 passed through the RKZ of the Bagram runway.
There’s probably enough footage of this to be able to say yes or no.
No, it looks like a cargo shift..
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One would expect some visual indications from engines not producing thrust. While the film makes it hard to see the nose attitude of the plane it was definitely going slow, the wing rolled left slightly and then rapidly to the right as the nose dropped. Cargo shift or, improper placement/weight and balance look more probable.
AR-15 in the trunk of the plane obviously....sheesh. They had the guys on live when cargo shift was mentioned before the 747 hit the earth.
It even LOOKS like cargo shift....happened just like this in the 90s in FL.
They could do this by mining the Bagram runway with autonomous GPS-guided multi-copters placed exactly where they would collide with each jet turbine as the 747-400 passed through the RKZ of the Bagram runway.
What a nut to claim that happened. What the video. There was no engine failure.
Crash: National Air Cargo B744 at Bagram on Apr 29th 2013, lost height shortly after takeoff
http://avherald.com/h?article=46183bb4&opt=0
If you watch the video is pretty obvious they were climbing at too steep of an angle and the plane simply stalled.
Not only was it not terrorist, I doubt it was even cargo-shift. It has the look of simple (and I might add classic) steep climb stall. Once the aircraft stalled, clearly the nose dropped (as it is supposed to do) and the pilot appeared to be regaining control. Another 12-1500 feet of altitude and it might have been the most impressive ‘buzzing’ of the field ever recorded.
And yes, this exact type of accident has happened before. When you get that much mass rotating that quickly, Mr. Newton takes over and makes it continue to rotate even as the pilot commands it to stop. As some point airspeed diminishes below stalling speed, and you become a passenger until the nose drops and airspeed is regained. Hopefully you don’t run out of altitude before that happens.
Were there any locals on that ground crew who loaded the aircraft? Were maximum capacity limits ignored? It's hard to watch that dashcam video, and I found that the puppy whimpering then the driver chuckling kind of odd, given the enormity of what just happened. Horrible.
yes
Exactly, causing an engine flame-out with invisible flames...
From the video I’ve seen it looks like an extremely high angle of ascent combined with a possible cargo shift. There was no smoke or obvious damage to the plane before it crashed.
I see that all but 1 of the 7 killed were from here in Michigan. Apparently the company is based at Willow run.
Willow Run? Was it a Kallita bird?
No. Next question.
According to a listener on frequency the crew reported the aircraft stalled due to a possible load shift.
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