Judge: Hearing Monday For Obama Identity Fraud Case; Obama Selective Service Fraud?

BirtherReport.com ^ | April 16, 2013 | US Dist. Judge Morrison C. England

[Seizethecarp]

Pursuant to Local Rule 230(g), the Court will hear oral argument regarding both California Defendants’ and Federal Defendants’ Motions to Dismiss on April 22, 2013 at 10:00 am in Courtroom 7. The Court will allot each party--Plaintiffs, California Defendants, and Federal Defendants--a maximum of 30 minutes of oral argument. Oral argument will be limited to: (1) mootness, (2) standing, (3) political question doctrine, (4) the Speech and Debate Clause, and/or (5) service of process on defendants. No witnesses and/or exhibits will be permitted or considered at the hearing. Plaintiffs’ “Motion to Recuse Counsel for Defendants and Motion to Expedite under Local Rule 144” (ECF No. 102) currently set for April 18, 2013 is VACATED in light of the hearing on the motions to dismiss. A new hearing date will be set for said motion if necessary. IT IS SO ORDERED.

[Seizethecarp]

“Oaths taken by elected representatives mean nothing in America anymore.”

Sad, but true. Look at the judges that wrote and the ones that cited the incoherent Ankeny case! Arpaio has already made the case on the forgery BEFORE getting further confirmation and sign-off by a federally certified digital document lab.

[Casie]

GUILTY! And we sentence you, Obama, to LIFE in prison. Bailiff take this man away. May God have mercy on his soul.

That's how it plays out in my dreams.

[butterdezillion]

Interesting that the judge claims that Fuddy certified the authenticity. Fuddy is not authorized to certify the authenticity of any vital record. That job belongs to Onaka. So exactly what is the judge even referring to there?

[GregNH]

From Orly this morning.

"I am keeping some of the information received from readers out of publication until April 22 hearing"

[iontheball]

Can Taitz limited herself to these legal topics? Does she even know what they all are?
Oral argument will be limited to: (1) mootness, (2) standing, (3) political question doctrine, (4) the Speech and Debate Clause, and/or (5) service of process on defendants.
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Tatz problem is her inability to speak coherently and stay on topic. She is very scatter brained. This is a disastrous trait as a legal advocate. She has more determination than most lawyers but her disorganized mind keeps her from closing the deal. She would be much better served with having a skilled partner do the actual courtroom presentation. Unfortunately, her ego gets in the way.

[Gay State Conservative]

Even if all this is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt I hope nobody here thinks that anything will actually *come* of it...like coverage by the “drive by media” or impeachment.It won't even warrant an asterisk in the history books as Billy Bob Blythe's impeachment will.

[TheOldLady]

You have to give Orly Taitz a lot of credit.

She started out being ridiculed for her inept presentations, and she was criticized and made the butt of jokes.

But she loves our country so much that she has stayed with her project to oust the usurper, and learned what
she is doing and what she is supposed to do and say.

So she has presented a case that may hold water and save our country from a communist dictatorship.

Watch your back, Orly!

[Michael.SF.]

That is a solid note of reality!

Let's face it, one of two things are true:

1) It is all BS, Barry is a citizen.
2) It is all true and he is a Singaporian-Kenyan.

Assume two is correct. That means people far more knowledgeable and well placed know that to be true and are remaining silent. That is the real story.

[zeugma]

What it really means is that they want to slap this suit down more forcefully. I predict the 'reasoning' behind it will be mootness and standing.

Our political and legal systems are incapable of dealing with fraud at this level.

[bgill]

Looks like he is siding with the Hawaiian Department of Health.

With total disregard for HDH's obvious cover up.

[Ray76]

“She would be much better served with having a skilled partner do the actual courtroom presentation. Unfortunately, her ego gets in the way.”

Agreed.

[rxsid]

"Why do I feel like some character in an old Charlie Brown cartoon with Lucy and a football very time I click on one of these threads?

I am personally convinced the post turtle is a fraud and an usurper, but this tilting at windmills is getting me down, where is the closure??

Years after the bastard is gone and his damage done do not do any of us any good, beyond a "told you so"."

If not for "us", then for posterity. The truth must be known for the history books.

[Marathoner]

Let's face it, one of two things are true:

1) It is all BS, Barry is a citizen. 2) It is all true and he is a Singaporian-Kenyan

What I'll never understand is that if #1 was true, why Zippy didn't come out with the proof months ago, if for no other reason to make us who care about these things look like a bunch of kooks.

[rxsid]

"Let's face it, one of two things are true:

1) It is all BS, Barry is a citizen.
1) It is all BS, Barry is a natural born Citizen.
2) It is all true and he is a Singaporian-Kenyan."

Being a "citizen" doesn't cut it for the position of Commander in Chief of the armed forces. The Constitution mandates that he be a "natural born Citizen."

There is a difference.

[Nero Germanicus]

The problem is that the courts have ruled that Barry is indeed a natural born citizen and no court has ruled that he is not a natural born citizen.
Here are a few examples:
Rhodes v MacDonald, US District Court Judge Clay D. Land: “A spurious claim questioning the president’s constitutional legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment, but a Court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.”—US District Court for the Middle District of Georgia, September 16, 2009.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19809978/RHODES-v-MacDONALD-13-ORDER-denying-3-Motion-for-TRO-granting-8-Motion-to-Dismiss-Ordered-by-Judge-Clay-D-Land-on-09162009-CGC-Entered-0

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Taitz v Obama (Quo Warranto) “This is one of several such suits filed by Ms. Taitz in her quixotic attempt to prove that President Obama is not a natural born citizen, as is required by the Constitution. This Court is not willing to go tilting at windmills with her.”— Chief US District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth, US District Court for the District of Columbia, April 14, 2010
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30040084/TAITZ-v-OBAMA-QW-23-MEMORANDUM-OPINION-dcd-04502943496-23-0

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Tisdale v Obama, US District Court Judge John A. Gibney, Jr.: “It is well settled that those born within the United States are natural born citizens.”— Tisdale v Obama, US District Court of the Eastern District of Virginia, January 23, 2012.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/82011399/Tisdale-v-Obama-EDVA-3-12-cv-00036-Doc-2-ORDER-23-Jan-2012

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Swensson, Powell, Farrar and Welden v Obama, Administrative Law Judge Michael Mahili, State of Georgia Administrative Hearings: “For the purposes of this analysis, the Court considered that Barack Obama was born in the United States. Therefore, as discussed in Ankeny, he became a citizen at birth and is a natural born citizen. Accordingly, President Barack Obama is eligible as a candidate for the presidential primary under O.C.G.A. under Section 21-2-5(b). February 3, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/80424508/Swensson-Powell-Farrar-Welden-vs-Obama-Judge-Michael-Malihi-s-Final-Order-Georgia-Ballot-Access-Challenge-2-3-12

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Allen v Obama, Arizona Superior Court Judge Richard E. Gordon: “Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent in construing the United States Constitution, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1874), does not hold otherwise.”—Pima County Superior Court, Tuscon, Arizona, March 7, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/84531299/AZ-2012-03-07-Allen-v-Obama-C20121317-ORDER-Dismissing-Complaint

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Purpura & Moran v Obama: New Jersey Administrative Law Judge Jeff S. Masin: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.” April 10, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/88936737/2012-04-10-NJ-Purpura-Moran-v-Obama-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin-Apuzzo

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Voeltz v Obama, Judge John C. Cooper, Leon County, Florida Circuit Court Judge: “In addition, to the extent that the complaint alleges that President Obama is not a “natural born citizen” even though born int he United States, the Court is in agreement with other courts that have considered this issue, namely, that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purpose, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.”—September 6, 2012
http://judicial.clerk.leon.fl.us/image_orders.asp?caseid=77182640&jiscaseid=&defseq=&chargeseq=&dktid=57485906&dktsource=CRTV

[JohnnyP]

If so, why the need to post a forged BC? That is the crime.

[nuss]

Bitch about Orly all you want. But, think about this. At least she tries...hard....and, if you can’t have sympathy for some of her English language foibles....ask yourselves....is my Russian better than her English????...I don’t think so... You pathetic, bigoted, ignorant assholes!

[Michael.SF.]

I am well aware of the difference, but thanks just the same.

[Michael.SF.]

I personally am convinced he is not eligible to be President, so I am more troubled as to why people in high places are doing nothing about it.

I think we will all learn the truth someday, likely right after we learn who killed JFK.

[Nero Germanicus]

If a document is forged and its been posted on the Internet for the whole wide world to see since April 27, 2011, you’d think there would have been a criminal investigation of forgery, a Grand Jury hearing on forgery, a forgery trial, a forgery conviction, or a forgery sentencing. In two years there has been none of those steps taken and there’s been no congressional investigation of forgery either. All there is is an allegation of forgery and the state of Hawaii says that the whitehouse.gov image matches the original birth certificate in their files.
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf