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What Makes a Good Bug-Out Location?
The Shooters Log ^ | 3/23/13 | CTD Blogger

Posted on 03/23/2013 12:53:07 PM PDT by Kartographer

I’m going to tell you a true story, but to protect my friend’s privacy and OPSEC—as all good preppers should do—I’m going to remain as anonymous as possible. I’m telling you because I believe in helping people and I like to imagine a world after SHTF where we help each other rather than hinder each other, so here it goes… I recently had the opportunity to visit a friend’s bug-out property. What started out as a dream for land outside of the city for a nice get-away to keep animals and a shooting range turned into the perfect place to start a bug-out plan in motion.


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To: Kartographer

Yes. Prep first, and ask questions later.

‘Tis far, far better to be prepared, whether it’s needed or not.

Those who are prepared will survive times of trouble, and those who are not will fare poorly indeed.

It’s just plain old common sense.


141 posted on 03/28/2013 12:29:29 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Vendome

I’m so glad I stumbled on this thread and then this post of yours!

I’m not a “prepper” by any stretch of even the wildest imaginations. I’m just not motivated to do it, and/or I’m too lazy. But one “nightmare” I’ve always had was dying of thirst.

This “lifesaver bottle” you mentioned is the perfect answer to my worry! I’ve actually thought a similar device would be a great idea in developing countries.

Anyway this is more to remind me to buy one more than anything. http://www.lifesaverusa.com/category_s/1821.htm

It seems like the perfect thing to take on camping trips at least.


142 posted on 03/28/2013 12:31:05 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Kartographer
Secrecy.

Shhhhhhhhh!

143 posted on 03/28/2013 12:33:30 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I lived for over a year and a half on stored supplies and grown or foraged stuff after the market crash of 2008.

We've been through this before, haven't we? The reason you had go that long on stored supplies is that you didn't have any money. It wasn't that there weren't any supplies available, or that money had become worthless, or some other SHTF type of thing. Had you saved up some cash you wouldn't have had to forage.

We are in agreement that saving up money is smart. Why? Because financial disasters happen to people all the time.

Where we disagree is that this therefore justifies "prepping", as in keeping a years worth of dried beans around. Why? Because the chances of SHTF are exceedingly small -- not worth worrying about as JIM ROBINSON HIMSELF HAS ACKNOWLEDGED (hee hee) -- making it a misallocation of resources to put up more than a few weeks worth of stuff. After all, a few weeks of stuff is enough to get 90% of people through the worst part of whatever act of God your particular part of the country is prone to.

144 posted on 03/28/2013 12:39:34 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Kartographer

I’m fortunate enough to live in a good bugout location.


145 posted on 03/28/2013 12:39:46 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Bon mots
This pResident just spent more money than all Presidents who preceded him combined in an effort to prod the economy...

Well, that's the official version, but I think it is likely the fattest money laundering and larceny scheme the world has known.

146 posted on 03/28/2013 12:40:29 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Average Al; Kartographer
In a real emergency I don't see how people think they are going to get to these rural safe havens. Just evening traffic is nearly impossible in many places on a normal day.

Two things to do to prepare for this. 1. Be alert to what is happing around you. 2. Plan alternative routes via backroads. I know if it hits the fan the freeways will be a parking lot. However, I've reconned several exit routes that would avoid the mess. I've got a couple others needing to be driven, but it just takes planning.

147 posted on 03/28/2013 12:42:47 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Jane Long
From what I've read about your preps, skills and steel resolve, folks will be clamoring to have you in their tribe...

Here's my philosophical question:

If we're starting tribes, what's better to show up with, guns or your set of cast iron cookware?

From watching old westerns on TV, every cattle drive had their Cookie manning the chuckwagon.

-PJ

148 posted on 03/28/2013 12:42:57 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Yardstick

Any day now,it's coming, as the song goes " that'll be the day"

149 posted on 03/28/2013 12:44:37 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Political Junkie Too; yorkiemom; Marcella; JRandomFreeper; blam; metmom; GeronL; Old Sarge; ...
"every cattle drive had their Cookie manning the chuckwagon."

Sorry job's been filed! Right Jonny?
150 posted on 03/28/2013 12:45:30 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Lazamataz

You don’t have a torture chair down in your CDC hidey hole do you?


151 posted on 03/28/2013 12:49:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
You don’t have a torture chair down in your CDC hidey hole do you?

What's it to ya?


152 posted on 03/28/2013 12:51:12 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Kartographer
LOL! But thanks for the metal! BLAM!

-PJ

153 posted on 03/28/2013 12:53:30 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Yardstick
Cash can go away quickly. Just ask Cypriots.

At least I own my property outright, and only have to pay yearly tribute to the protection racket we call local government.

I'll keep my larder full. You do as you please.

But I'm done with you. You seem to take perverse pleasure in being disruptive.

Plonk.

/johnny

154 posted on 03/28/2013 12:53:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer
I feel that God requires me to feed folks as part of my service, so if that makes me Cookie, so be it. ;)

/johnny

155 posted on 03/28/2013 12:54:52 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Yardstick

yer a troll


156 posted on 03/28/2013 12:55:22 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Cookie with a shotgun under the kneading table. ;-)


157 posted on 03/28/2013 12:57:24 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Vendome
A once in century storm. Couldn’t go anywhere for three days.

Right -- three days.

Luckily I had ample supplies of everything, including candles which came in handy when the electric went out for two days.

Mmmm hmmm. Two days.

two years later another storm hit. Not as bad but, every road out of town was uphill and absolutely covered with snow. Stayed home for a day.

So one day then?

Still, there were two floods that nearly took our home and left us stranded for about a week.

Oh man, a week. Sounds pretty bad.

Thanks Vendome. You may step down from the stand now...

158 posted on 03/28/2013 12:58:06 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
A few weeks of supplies makes sense. Anything beyond that is a strictly optional lifestyle choice or hobby. Which makes the lectures and the doom mongering from you people unjustified.

So you can absolutely guarantee that no future catastrophic event has ever occurred or will occur will last beyond a "few weeks." You must not be paying much attention to the political and economic train wreck that is bearing down on us. Ignorance is indeed bliss.

159 posted on 03/28/2013 12:58:51 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Yardstick; Kartographer
We've been through this before, haven't we? The reason you had go that long on stored supplies is that you didn't have any money. It wasn't that there weren't any supplies available, or that money had become worthless, or some other SHTF type of thing. Had you saved up some cash you wouldn't have had to forage.

If you read anything about people who HAVE BEEN THROUGH IT, in Argentina and Bosnia, you will find out that Cash is King for about 2-4 weeks, adn then it is utterly worthless.

Where we disagree is that this therefore justifies "prepping", as in keeping a years worth of dried beans around. Why? Because the chances of SHTF are exceedingly small -- not worth worrying about as JIM ROBINSON HIMSELF HAS ACKNOWLEDGED (hee hee)

Jimrob did not say that it is not worth worrying about. He said he, himself, is not particularly worried about it. I happen to know why.

-- making it a misallocation of resources to put up more than a few weeks worth of stuff. After all, a few weeks of stuff is enough to get 90% of people through the worst part of whatever act of God your particular part of the country is prone to.

I'm of the opinion that the experiences of Argentina, as survived by one FerFAL, and Bosnia, as survived by another blogger, are eminently possible and possibly even probable, given the crap-currency we are issued, and the unsustainable government spending binge we are on.

Do you know how the USSR collapsed? One day, they simply could no longer pay anyone in the government. All the government workers walked off the job. Bam, the USSR collapses.

The probabilty of that occuring in the United States is near-unity. WE get the added benefit of massive urban riots when the EBT cards flash "ERROR".

But if I am wrong, it is likely because of minor or major miracles. If YOU are wrong, we shant speak about it, for you and I will be busy on the task of surviving AT ALL.

160 posted on 03/28/2013 1:00:10 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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