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What Makes a Good Bug-Out Location?
The Shooters Log ^ | 3/23/13 | CTD Blogger

Posted on 03/23/2013 12:53:07 PM PDT by Kartographer

I’m going to tell you a true story, but to protect my friend’s privacy and OPSEC—as all good preppers should do—I’m going to remain as anonymous as possible. I’m telling you because I believe in helping people and I like to imagine a world after SHTF where we help each other rather than hinder each other, so here it goes… I recently had the opportunity to visit a friend’s bug-out property. What started out as a dream for land outside of the city for a nice get-away to keep animals and a shooting range turned into the perfect place to start a bug-out plan in motion.


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To: Lazamataz

Thatz just stoopit. You’re not gonna die.

Your my buddy. I’ll take care of you....


101 posted on 03/28/2013 11:39:24 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: driftdiver; Lazamataz

I am betting only if the beer has run out!


102 posted on 03/28/2013 11:39:28 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Jane Long
I thought I’d sleep-posted, or something :)

LOL! FRiends don't let friends drink and post either. So we'd help you out, in that event too!
103 posted on 03/28/2013 11:39:58 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Vendome; driftdiver; Lazamataz

See Lazamataz you will be fine! Besides us ‘ants’ always need a token ‘grasshooper’ around to keep us from getting to serious! ;-)


104 posted on 03/28/2013 11:41:16 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Yardstick; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper

Hey, don’ be hatin’ on Kartographer. Be angry at the zombie mind control machine operators that force you to read Prepper articles.

I for one appreciate his, JRandom’s and others’ posts. I implement to the level I am comfortable with, but gain a lot of knowledge to make informed choices.

I bet you can skip them as easily as I find them.


105 posted on 03/28/2013 11:42:05 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: driftdiver
You’ll be the last guy in the CDC bunker waiting for the self destruct time to wind down.

Lazamataz: "VI, would you kindly inform driftdriver how long we have left, and what happens then?"

VI: "There is approximately 52 minutes left of backup electric power. When depleted, the H.I.T.s device will trigger. The H.I.T.s device is a high-impulse thermobaric fuel-air explosive consists of a two-stage aerosol ignition which produces a blast wave of significantly greater power and duration than any other known explosive except nuclear. The vacuum-pressure effect ignites the oxygen between 5,000 and 6,000 degrees and is used when the greatest loss of life and damage to structures is desired."

106 posted on 03/28/2013 11:42:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Kartographer
You know that is one of the things I believe deeply in God does have tremendous sense of humor. The lessons I have learn the best when I was corrected are those I was able to later laught at.

Yeah, it's weird. So I guy like me that -- because of my own stupid decisions, has been completely unable to prepare AT ALL -- will probably end up in perfect shape, well fed, no injuries, leader of a small community.

While the guys that were painstaking in their preperation end up dead in days.

God LOVES doin' stuff like that. :)

(I hope alla y'all make it tho)

107 posted on 03/28/2013 11:46:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Yardstick; Kartographer
What I do wish is for FR to be free of the vindictive, paranoid, corny, persecution-complex-filled articles that preppers too often post around here.

If you don't like a certain part of town, don't drive there.

If you don't like a certain TV show, change the channel or throw the TV out the window.

If you don't like "prepper" posts here on FR, don't click on them.

One of the things that separates conservatives from liberals is that conservatives are happy to live and let live - we are all free to have our own ideas and beliefs as long as we do not try to harm others or take their freedoms away.

Liberals preach diversity but really demand uniformity. They brag about their "Big Tent" party but have no room under the tent for anyone who might have an idea or a view different from theirs. They expect everyone to think they way they think and live the way they approve of.

That's not the kind of attitude we expect here at FR


108 posted on 03/28/2013 11:48:27 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: Yardstick; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator

Let’s see where you are now. On post 51, you want my death and my brains eaten the first day the country collapses, if it does, and you say in posts after 51, we clog this site with prepper threads and you don’t want to be on FR with prepper threads “clogging” this site. You express hatred for all preppers on FR.

You have kicked this up a notch to include the owner of the site, Jim Robinson, as it is his decision whether or not there are prepper threads on FR. I have pinged him so he will know you object to prepper threads clogging FR. Perhaps he will give an opinion as to whether prepper threads are ruining FR. He can shut us down any time he wants. He can also shut you down from wishing our deaths just because we prep for more than two weeks and we make posts to help others prepare.


109 posted on 03/28/2013 11:48:54 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Kartographer

Pretty sad you had to add a 4th category.

But it’s a useful list to have, in order to be able to classify others based on their intents and possible harm later on. Many anti-preppers are also in the liberal category - in my book, to be treated with extreme caution because their agenda will be more important to them than anything else while they still have food and shelter and when they don’t, they’ll rationalize being entitled to stealing it from others.


110 posted on 03/28/2013 11:49:18 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Vendome

So SHTF is now a snow storm?

Funny how you guys always define SHTF down whenever we have these little chats.

That wouldn’t be because the SHTF of your fantasies — total societal collapse — is too farfetched to be a legit justification for the extreme prepper lifestyle you advocate, would it?

Or, if you’re just advocating the keeping of a few weeks worth of supplies on hand to get you through the worst part of any disaster that has any likelihood of actually happening, then we have nothing to disagree about. I’ve said several times that I think this level of “prepping” makes sense.


111 posted on 03/28/2013 11:50:38 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: MrB
I've talked to may about the coming collapse, and they say in almost rapturous tones - "then we'll all be in the same boat". They think that equally shared misery (though that won't happen, the "rich" and the powerful will NOT suffer) is superior to a world where someone enjoys the fruits of their own labor.

Isn't that the definition of socialism?
112 posted on 03/28/2013 11:50:38 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: Vendome; driftdiver; Lazamataz
"God LOVES doin' stuff like that. :)"

Lord don't he though! I can't help but think of the scene in the movie 'Jeremiah Johnson' where he finds Hacth Jack froze to death.

I Hatchet Jack, being of sound mind and broke legs, do hereby leaveth my bear rifle to whatever finds it. Lord hope it be a white man. It is a good rifle and killed the bear that killed me. Anyway, I am dead. Yours truly, Hatchet Jack and Jack's note.
113 posted on 03/28/2013 11:56:43 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Yardstick
That wouldn’t be because the SHTF of your fantasies

That's called projection.

I lived for over a year and a half on stored supplies and grown or foraged stuff after the market crash of 2008. Don't tell me 2 weeks is enough.

/johnny

114 posted on 03/28/2013 11:57:12 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Yardstick

I’ve been through snow storms when the electricity went out and stayed out. Travel was impossible. Anyone on the roads was likely to end up trapped for several days at least.

Heck an uncle of mine was trapped for 4 days with his car completely buried by snow in -40 F weather. He only survived because he had stuff in his car.


115 posted on 03/28/2013 11:57:57 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Yardstick; Jane Long
Jane hope ya don't mind me quoting you ?

Yardstick Opinions are like...well you know the rest. The solution is simple: If you don't care for a thread's subject, then don't click on it (hint: anything to do w/prepping).

Don't go away mad, just go away.

116 posted on 03/28/2013 11:58:20 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Yardstick

Okay. Well here is a plan, maybe you should just not open prepper threads...easy solution. There are many threads here that I just don’t open, don’t interest me and I don’t care what is posted there.


117 posted on 03/28/2013 11:58:29 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Vendome; driftdiver; Lazamataz

Lazamataz consider that post a bequeath from me to you should I not survive SHTF and you do!


118 posted on 03/28/2013 11:59:09 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: yorkiemom

Yeah, I guess they think their utopian world will finally be achieved when no one has anything (everyone has nothing).


119 posted on 03/28/2013 12:00:33 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Marcella; Yardstick

If you don’t like prepper threads, stay off them. Pretty simple, eh.


120 posted on 03/28/2013 12:03:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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