The Hutaree were accused and arrested for being suspected of plotting against government.
All were acquitted.
Good thing the emperor can’t use drone strikes here......yet.
And yet, terrorists who come into this country in order to kill as many innocent people as possible need to be afforded rights out the wazoo.
*Twilight Zone Theme*
If someone takes up arms against this country, there should be a process to strip them of their citizenship. Then you can paint a target on their back.
I am gonna go with Krauthammer for bit. Here’s how: If I catch someone attacking my wife or daughter, I will not await due process. I think it is arguably analogous that if we catch someone in the act of attacking the US, they are a ‘combatant’ and are fair game for a Hellfire at that moment.
The Antietam analogy falls apart though because those folks were identifiablly combatants, actively at war.
Having written all this, I am confident this regime would apply the ‘logic’ of this argument in a twisted and evil way and would happily ‘drone’ someone who simply opposed or disagreed with them ... or was otherwise inconvenient. Stroke of the pen; law of the land.
He’s trying to protect and ensure his existence as a token disabled RINO appeaser with a misguided intellect. I put him in the same class as Obama.
Odd that he calls the potential actions of the oppressed illegal, particularly when is the basis on which this country was founded.
A despicable selfish worthless appeasing wonk.
Charles, you miss the point completely. Killing traitors is OK, even encouraged. It's the process of WHO decides WHO qualifies that bothers me. It's not a very far reach to envision the kenyan deciding that anyone who opposes him, or his policies, is worthy of a Hellfire missile.
A foreign usurper has set himself up as judge, jury and executioner, ignoring most of The Constitution and Bill of Rights. What's the difference between him and a dictator?
That precedent was set during the Bush Administration when it was decided that U.S. citizens identified as enemy combattants forfited their right to due process. They are past traitors. They are the enemy of this country engaged in war against us, and they will do harm to innocent Americans in any way they can whenever the opportunity arises. If you can capture them, then capture them. If you can kill them, then kill them. But whatever it takes, they have to be stopped. And those who wrung their hands over poor Jose Padilla and waterboarding, but who now defend airstrikes from drones are nothing but hypocrites.
There WAS process involved before a single rebel was shot in the Civil War. The entire government approved it. It wasn’t done with just a word from Lincoln.
I’m with Charles. If the ACLU and CodePink are up in arms, then I’m the opposite. Much prefer water-boarding tho.
When the government finally passes a total firearms ban, will refusal to surrender your guns be considered “taking up arms against the U.S.”?
Someone needs to tell Charles the difference is... when our troops stormed the beaches of Normandy, uniformed German soldiers were firing on them. There was no doubt — nor time to seek any — that our guys were facing unfriendly forces.
Contrast that to targeting of a purported enemy American in a safehouse in some foreign land. The “intelligence” data that identifies this individual is the brought to us by the same folks who did such a bang-up job predicting the attack on our consulate in Benghazi. Add to that.. the decision to turn this individual into a pink mist will be made by some unknown operative in the administration who will act as judge, jury and executioner. And let’s also not forget the POS in the White House is quite fond of stretching the extent of his powers.
Krauthammer’s comparisons don’t hold water, because the differences couldn’t be more stark.
I heard this piece by Krauthammer, but I think he partly missed the point. The loudest objection I know of is to the president arrogating to himself the ability to execute Americans abroad who, he thinks, are terrorists. No trial, no questions. The way Krauthammer phrases it, he assumes that the “people who have taken up arms against the U.S.” are proven to have done so. In fact, I’ve seen no evidence that this will be the case. The Nazis on D-Day are a straw argument, because there was no doubt they had taken up arms against us.
Krauthammer was right when he said the memo seemed to have been written by someone in the fifth quintile of their law class. As he analyzed it, “suspects are fair game for assassination when they are posing an imminent threat” + Al Qaeda members are a threat 24/7 = suspects can always be assassinated, making any conditional statements farcical.
Judge Napolitano said that even Lincoln placed the constraint that Confederates could only be killed in combat.
We’re not talking about killing turncoat Americans as part of general warfare.
We’re talking about targeting specific individuals for assassination.
That’s a massive difference, and I’m surprised Krauthammer seems oblivious to it.
Where is your Pulitzer Prize-winning story concerning Obamacare and how socialized medicine always means rationing and lowered standards. Patients die in British hospitals every week from dehydration and starvation!
Where is your story on Benghazi, Fast and Furious, illegal appointees, stolen social security number, forged birth certificate?
Don't lecture US on trusting our government! They do NOT deserve our trust! And you want us to grant Obama, Holder, Biden, Pilosi, Clinton a license to drone kill us? They have a man in prison for making a YouTube video for heavens sake!
Seems to me, regular Joes have extraordinary faith in our government and our representatives.
Yet again and again we hear and know abundance incompetence or worse lawlessness and corruptions in ‘our government’.
There is no doubt on going debate/discussion is needed as Dr. K suggested, but the Left/ACLU were quick to point out “freedom fighters” etc etc, once some one is dead, case closed. How do we know the beautiful Neda Agha-Soltan won’t happen here?
Exit question: Waco would not happen (and subsequent Oklahoma city bombing), if drone strike were available at the time? Were people omniscient enough (”legal, ehtical and wise”) to use it?
This guy is a liar. They
put my Italian-American grandmother under house arrest in WW2 - They confiscated her shortwave radio and she could not receive Italian newspapers. She could not leave her property for 3 years. But she hid my grandfather`s pistol which my cousins found in 1998 buried under the cellar cement. But the Mafia smuggled in Italian newspapers during the war for her to read. I still got the radio. All these German-American and Italian-American accounts of house arrests can be found the the local NY newspapers archives.
Does the principle apply to 0bama as he regularly takes up arms against the Constitution?
See abuses by the BATF.