Posted on 11/09/2012 3:21:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
"No offense meant to the honored former governor of Massachusetts. I mean, he may have been a horrible candidate, but he was a decent man. Of course, after Dukakis, Democrats determined that decency didn't win presidential elections. Massachusetts ceded to Arkansas and the rest, as they say, is history." Source
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Mitt Romney and his family are decent people - hard working Americans who love this country.
They sought and won the primary baton - tirelessly campaigned to the bitter end of the campaign.
I'll boil my post-election analysis down to this:
We need to elect a candidate that, besides running a good campaign, can articulate to the electorate all the good reasons why voting for him, will be a vote to improve their condition (and by condition, I'm not taking about unsustainable material hand-outs and a nanny-state).
...And that's your problem you've been convince they can't win. Well, you're wrong! They can win if we just back them STRONGLY! We believe in their ideas, but we chose to listen to others just like you who think those names are laughable!
Your thinking is the problem!
Win? Hell they couldn’t even beat Romney.
You don't get it...no wonder republicans lost!
You sound just like an arrogant, over educated GOP-e puke. Either that, or you are a DU troll who is happy the Marxist won. In either case, you are a naive fool.
It has worked so well for you the last two times. Can’t wait for your positive comments and encouraging words in 2016.
It worked for you?? You definitely sound like a troll... have a nice day!
“We mostly agree.”
On what?
“The point I wanted to make is that “RINO” has become the default insult and in-your-face tool — it is intellectually lazy.
Let’s improve our language skills, debate and sharpen our arguments.”
Look lady if we are to fight that means fight, not kissFace, and huggy with the enemy. RINO is not only an insult as you say, but is also a description of a class of people we don’t want leading our political party, therefore we must, and we will use every weapon, insult, dig, whatever as weapons to win. The enemy, the Democrats don’t hesitate to toss insults, and worse at us. Fight back. We aren’t going to get anywhere being Mr. Nice Guys/gals.
It’s time, past time as you, and others will soon find out to start kickin’ Leftist behinds. This is our country as well as theirs, and for them to make up rules, and regulations primarily for them to feed off of us (so they say) isn’t playing nice at all.
You make it sound like we need new hankies with more starch in them to smack them on their cheeks. That isn’t fighting for what we believe in.
The rule book is the Constitution, not a book listing Obama Executive Orders.
You guys amaze me. The Republican Party is not full of Conservatives...What?...No!....Really? Republicans are Republicans and Conservatives are Conservatives. Sometimes they overlap but not always-not even usually. This has been going on for years and you are still suprised and disappointed? Every election you moan about the candidates being not conservative enough but expect them to be more conservative next time. People this is not the Conservative Party. It is the Republican Party. The so called GOP elite are not rigging anything. They don’t have to because the majority of registered Republicans think just like them. It is pointless to hope and wish for conservative candidates from people who are only moderately conservative. The Tea Party movement is a valiant effort to move the party to the right, but even they are having only limited success. You have to pick from three choices: 1. Start today working to move your local GOP to the right. Work to educate voters and party hacks about conservatism. 2. Work to create a Conservative Party. Yes a third party. If every pissed off Republican would join forces and field candidates in local and state elections,and work hard to get them elected they would be a force to be reckoned with in 2016. 3. Shut up, sit down, and hope for the best.
Do not, however, expect the Republican Party to become conservative in four years. It didn’t happen in 88, 92,96, 2000, 2004, 2008, or 2012, and it won’t happen in 2016 either. Somehow though I have a suspicion you will still be moaning about the same old things in 2016. If you haven’t figured it out by now you probably never will. Either way, I tried. Good luck to you.
Right, but the problem is the repub party is run by the LOSER GOPe, not the conservative faction, which wins! I say it's fine if the republican party is all inclusive, but let the conservatives be in power. It will never happen because conservatives don't consider politics or gov't god.
I have up til this last election said we must fight to wrest power in the party instead of leave. Well, I'm done now! The republican party and all the loser rino coddlers can go FT! rino/moderates are losers whether they get elected or not, and they've shown absolutely NO PROOF nationally they can get elected!
and they’ve shown absolutely NO PROOF nationally they can get elected!
Exactly. If we had a COnservative Party candidate to vote for at least we would be counted. As it is millions stay home and the “experts” scratch their heads and wonder why. We don’t have a voice in the GOP so it is time to form our own party. Voting for the CP candidate and losing would be better than voting for a moderate we don’t really believe in and losing anyway.
Maybe because I was so PO at the stupid party I didn't realize we were agreeing with each other. I suspect this happens more than any of us would care to admit.
It's going to be a hard road, but the republican party needs to examine themselves before they EVER will win again...too late, they've lost me and I was one one their most ardent supporters. It's definitely is a THREE STRIKES AND YOU'RE OUT, thing.
We pinned our hopes on the GOP, but they never pinned their hopes on us.
Thanks for the thread.
I start from a given...the state of TX was never a natural Romney state. Yet, CW’s and my state of TX understood the urgency to oust Obama. And voted accordingly.
Other so-called “bible-belt” states did the same.
That tells me that the nation - whether disgruntled conservatives who didn’t vote or the mushy moderates swayed by emotion or the clearly duped groups who worship Obama - is way less on point than is TX and a solid block of “bible-belt” states.
I don’t excuse the electorate in places where Obama beat Romney. I hold THEM very much accountable for their actions, decisions, mindsets, what-have-you.
If the states that clearly saw what’s happening to America and their options to save it could vote for Mitt Romney, so could have the others that didn’t.
Having said that, of course we need to more carefully consider who is running. But we can’t make people run that choose not to, and we can’t make some chink in their armour go away that the enemy within will exploit.
Reagan was a rarity.
That doesn’t mean there might not be another one, but we see how seldom they come along.
Whoever says we can do better than Mitt Romney will get no argument from me. However, Mitt Romney actually exceeded my expectations as a candidate and would have exceeded them as president if he had won, in my opinion.
Again, my state voted for him in spite of the fact that, given other viable options, he would not have been my state’s pick in the primary to oppose Obama.
So, if Texas and the rest could, so could have others.
That they didn’t do so is on them.
And I have not ruled out fraud in this election.
A lot of things do not add up for me.
I guess "vote their money into my pocketbook" is the bottom line in those states.
Whoever says we can do better than Mitt Romney will get no argument from me. However, Mitt Romney actually exceeded my expectations as a candidate and would have exceeded them as president if he had won, in my opinion.
I agree but getting him there was a bridge too far.
And I have not ruled out fraud in this election. A lot of things do not add up for me.
When the U.S. Attorney General blocks voter ID and allows voter intimidation at the poles, it tees up conditions for fraud.
“And I have not ruled out fraud in this election”
Quoting my owned post, above...
I just heard a radio newsbreak that the count in FL has been finalized, at last.
Think of this: Out of 8.3 million votes cast, Obama is declared the winner by...74 thousand votes.
Obama got about 50% (I got the impression his was rounded up) of the vote and Mitt Romney got 49.1%.
This should demonstrate to everyone’s satisfaction how easy it would be for the Democrats to have stolen FL.
And there’s a precinct in FL that showed many more votes than registered voters...even an official there expressed “shock” and said, “this has never happened here before”.
I know there’s more in the news that would suggest fraud...I just happened to catch these snatches, in an otherwise busy day.
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