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Esoteric crap about “Romney not selling conservatism” “having bad staff” is non-sense Obama was weak as a kitten: Evangelicals killed us It wasn’t that Romney didn’t sell conservatism It wasn’t that there was voter fraud or a bias media or condoms or abortions or Chris Christie or anything BUT the Evangelical boycott. They stayed home and sucker punched Romney and conservatism by doing so.
1 posted on 11/08/2012 4:55:09 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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Sorry, but I don’t buy this. I want to see proof.

I am sure there were evangelicals that were put off by Mitt’s Mormonism and didn’t vote for him, but I believe that MOST did vote for Romney. Christians know what is at stake with a second 0 term. Most of us know that Zero is pure evil, hates Israel, and needed to be removed. I expect that the figures of evangelicals voting FOR him will be much higher than the percentage that stayed home or didn’t vote the top of the ticket.

Once again, someone is looking for a scapegoat. Could it be that some people just couldn’t stomach Romney, himself? I didn’t vote FOR him, but AGAINST Zero. I didn’t like Romney as a candidate, and after his scorched earth tactics during the primary—which incidentally he DIDN'T use on Zero—made me view him with disgust. I wasn’t going to vote for him at all; it was Benghazi that really got me off the fence. In the end I did vote for him, but I wasn’t thrilled about it.

66 posted on 11/08/2012 6:32:07 AM PST by Shelayne (Even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus!)
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I know many conservatives and or Evangelicals stayed home or voted for a candidate other than Romney or Obama, it is hard for me to understand their thinking. By the same token Romney has to look in the mirror on that one because early on he decided he didn’t need Evangelicals or conservatives to win and shut both out. You just can’t throw groups under the bus and still expect their votes.


73 posted on 11/08/2012 6:49:37 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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So in essence Sarah, Santorum, Gingrich, Perry , or anyone else would have picked up millions of votes that Romney failed to get? That would be enough to beat a President who lost 10 million voters from ahis previous campaign.

So explain to us again how Conservatism is dead?

Stupid GOPe


75 posted on 11/08/2012 6:54:22 AM PST by Joshua
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As several have pointed out, no data has been presented to back up the assertion. Until I do, I'm going to assume this is just the GOPe trying to bash the right (the core) of the party.

I was never a Romney supporter, and IIRC pro-Romney types were being banned from FR simply for being pro-Romney during the primaries because he's not conservative.

During the campaign, I have to say he won me over part of the way. I considered that it was possible that he was more conservative than his record indicated because his record was compiled in Mass, where Scott Brown is a radical right-winger and Fauxcahontas in mainstream. He did what he had to do to win. I can't say I ever trusted him, but I was willing to give him a shot.

In the end, I was like Mr. Wilson:

I couldn't really vote FOR, but I could damned sure vote AGAINST. And I did so, with enthusiasm.

76 posted on 11/08/2012 7:01:22 AM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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Everyone wants to blame someone else. Hitler had the Jews. “Coachisright” has the evangelicals.

Not that it mattered in Missouri (as it went Romney), but I do know several evangelicals who probably didn't vote for Romney.

We are always told to vote our values. Evangelicals who didn't vote for Romney did so because of their values. They couldn't bring themselves to vote for a cultist. Yes, Obama may act (and who knows, even believe) like he's a God, but Mormonism teaches that one can become a God if they live the Mormon faith. Evangelicals believe that there is only ONE God, and Man can not become a God. I fully support that view. I hold nothing against any evangelical who didn't vote for Obama. Mormonism is “anti-Christ” at its’ core.

Sure, there are a lot of good people (by earthly standards) that are Mormons, but there is a good movie called Time Changer, where one of the cast says (I paraphrase) “Satan doesn't care if you do good things and live a good life, Satan just doesn't want Jesus to get the credit”.

Mormonism points one to a different Christ, a false Christ. Many evangelicals couldn't pull the lever for this. I consider myself an evangelical. Can't blame them. There are many things people will compromise on. They chose to stand on the promises of God. I didn't decide to vote for Romney until the day before the election, and only because my sister pointed out that as a nation we will go down if we are not on God's side. Obama's track record with Israel made me finally decide to vote Romney.

80 posted on 11/08/2012 7:11:22 AM PST by The Bard (http://www.myfbc.com)
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Record Evangelical Turnout Was Overshadowed by Youth and Minority Voters For Obama

Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, November 8, 2012, 9:05 AM

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/record-evangelical-turnout-was-overshadowed-by-youth-and-minority-voters-for-obama/#comments


87 posted on 11/08/2012 7:34:29 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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BS! Look at the maps folks! With few exceptions again the rural areas voted republican. It’s the urban places that consistently stay poor and vote rat. That is where the real problem is. Urban versus rural!


89 posted on 11/08/2012 7:46:14 AM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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If these people sat out both 2008 and 2012 they are not a “voting bloc” at all.

I’m disgusted at these phonies.


91 posted on 11/08/2012 7:53:35 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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This defeat was already created 40 years ago. Yes, a lot of people said they’d rather stay home than vote for a Mormon and I’m sure a good chunk of them did so. Some are even bragging about it now on their blogs. But let’s face it: Dems had single women, Hispanics, and college educated youth, none of whom give a hoot about the country but want what they want and will vote for the man who gives it to them.


93 posted on 11/08/2012 8:07:29 AM PST by stellaluna
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....clearly the vast majority of Evangelicals stayed home on Election Day.

They weren’t dealing with a storm or a personal family emergency. They stayed home because they made a conscious decision to allow our Marxist enemy to continue ruining our lives rather than have Mormon Mitt Romney as our president.

They draw their grounds for such a twisted thought from their interpretation of the Bible which they take literally – except of course for the part about handling poisonous snakes – that’s where a more modern interpretation of Scripture takes hold.

The Evangelicals’ hatred of Romney burns so brightly it blinded them. Self- flagellation and a willingness to aid and abet a clear enemy became preferable to them – consequences be damned.

Coach knows this how, exactly? He can't use exit poll data, because he's simultaneously saying they didn't show up at the polls.

96 posted on 11/08/2012 8:13:14 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("If you are not firm in faith, you will not be firm at all" - Isaiah 7:9)
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What about Catholics hoss?

they are more of ya’ll and you still voted majority Obama

out of the hundreds of folks I know and 95% are white Southrn Baptist, PCA, MoSyn or AOG or Southern CofC

every one voted for Romney...enthusiastically

you jerks who toss around evangelical usually don;t even know what it is or the differences...it’s like “you people”

to most Catholics..anyone who ain’t one of them or Episcopalian or Orthodox and goes to church regular is an evangelical

and that is a lot of folks...many of whom have nothing else in common...nearly all blacks are evangelicals by that measure for instance

Rick Warren too or Osteen etc...and some of their followers are PC as hell

I do not know why the vote was low..it was lower across the board but fell much more for Obama than for Romney hence the smaller spread

the problem was demographics more than anything..and that is only gonna get worse...no matter how much the stupids here stick their head in the dirt

white conservative churches down here really pushed this vote trust me and everyone was motivated

i think folks will be better able to tell who stayed home at some point

but you cannot escape that Romney was not our best pick and did not have base appeal...the base appeal was get rid of Obama and that was not enough

i suspect you find his lack of appeal spread across our spectrum...in coming weeks we will see who stayed home but it looks like about 3 times more stayed home for Obama than Romney at this point compared to 2008


98 posted on 11/08/2012 8:34:41 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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You know...for a damn Yankee...as usual

you got a lot of nerve jackass

my home state of Mississippi is 40% black

and nearly 95% what you turds call Evangelical

Whites down there voted 90% for Romney

you are blowing out yer ass....looking for a scapegoat

when you live in a liberal cesspool you have lost control over

what a joke some of ya’ll are

just like it has always been...you can't get your own house in order but you are the very first to point fingers at everyone else

Protestants even counting blacks voted 57% Romney

Catholics...you I bet..voted 51% Obama...I'm disappointed but not BLAMING CATHOLICS..I blame non whites..very simple..and northern white KAPOS

What was the white vote in New York numbnuts?

let's look it up class...CNN 2012 exit polls

oh here it is...49% of whites in New York voted for Romney

now let's look again...in 90% Evangelical Mississppi...90% of whites voted for Romney..and I'll betcha most white Catholics in MS voted Romney too...

so pray tell Thaddeus...wherein does the real problem exist?

painful ain't it son?

and I give these lessons free of charge

class dismissed boy

PS...it gets worse...do you have any notion how many more white votes there are in NY than MS?...a lot...now get to work up there and quit blaming the world

100 posted on 11/08/2012 8:46:09 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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Very interesting stats on how Catholics, Jews, Evangelicals voted....

The Church Re Elected President Obama
reenysrambles.com ^ | 11/08/2012 | n/a
 

Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:43:33 AM by massmike

Yes, you read that title correctly.

In total Obama received more support from religious groups than did Romney, but there are some rather surprising totals in the individual listings. First of all, you have the Catholic vote. As we all know there was a huge issue this year when the Supreme Court ruled on ObamaCare because of the mandate that violated the religious freedom of the Catholic Church. It is against the Catholic teaching to use contraceptives or have an abortion, and within this bill is a mandate forcing Catholic institutions to provide contraceptives and abortificient drugs, within their insurance, to their employees. This was a huge deal, AND YET 50% of the Catholic vote went to him?

 

 

 

106 posted on 11/08/2012 10:11:10 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Everyone has to make their own choice who to vote or not vote for and I think the blame game is pointless. If we want to take back this country we will have to mount a massive get out the vote effort starting now. I know several conservatives that do not vote- we likely all do. We need to encourage people to register and vote at every opportunity. The G.O.P. needs to camp on getting out the vote. It is all about numbers.


108 posted on 11/08/2012 10:26:05 AM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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I don’t know how much of this is crap and just looking for a scapegoat, and in that also having some animus toward “Evangleicals”, because the writer offered no data, no facts, just their opinion.

Maybe they are right, maybe, but:

No numbers = not an argument to be believed.


112 posted on 11/08/2012 11:57:33 AM PST by Wuli
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Numbers are in. Evangelicals turned to for the Mormon. This is more circular shooting squad bs.

Romney played the part of globalist businessman. It’s not appealing to normal people. We are tired of losing freedom, independence and self interst in service to the bank accounts and power of globalists.

It’s politically incorrect to talk about it.


114 posted on 11/08/2012 5:45:35 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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