SnakeDoc
Posted on 11/06/2012 9:28:45 PM PST by Uncle Sham
Tonight is not a good night for this nation. Much seems lost. We do have an option left to follow that must be employed if we are to salvage anything of what is left. Our weapon is right there in the U.S. Constitution. We need to INSIST in all ways possible that it be adhered to.
The Constitution does not allow someone who does not meet the eligibility requirements for President to legally serve no matter what the election results are. It's right there in the Constitution under the Twentieth Amendment, Section Three:
"3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified."
A few notes.
1. There is no such position as a "President elect", legally, until such a time as Congress has accepted the results of the electoral college votes and a person is actually named as the "President elect". This means that the term "shall have qualified" refers to something other than the results of winning an election. There is only one place left in the Constitution having to do with "qualifications" for the office of President, that being the eligibility requirements from Article two.
"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
2. Since it is the duty of Congress to name an interim President in the event of a President elect's "failure to qualify", they, Congress, must know whether or not to do so. This means that they, Congress, must be aware of whether or not a President elect meets the eligibility requirements from Article two. It is the burden of the President elect to "qualify" or "fail to qualify", thus NOT proving one is eligible under Article Two to Congress is the same thing as "failing to qualify." Congress avoiding its duty to uphold Section 3 results in the same "failure to qualify". This is what happened in 2009. We the people must not let this happen again in 2012.
3. How was Obama's eligibility proven to Congress without a valid long form birth certificate? He apparently does not possess such a thing or we would have seen it a million times by now.
4. The eligibility requirements start out with two simple words which forever preclude anyone who "fails to qualify" from serving as a legal president, "No person". Someone who sneaks in because Congress failed to uphold it's responsibility to enforce the Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 doesn't legally exist. The Constitution cannot be fooled just because Congress didn't act when it was supposed to. A President elect either qualifies or he cannot ever be President, period.
Thus it is that we have protection from someone who is ineligible to serve as President already written into the Constitution. Unfortunately, we also have a Congress that did not uphold it's oath to support the Constitution and a usurpation of the office of President is the result. We know he is illegal strictly on the basis that we don't know if he is eligible. If he "qualified", there would be no debating the subject. The fact that nobody in Congress is able to say whether or not he is eligible means that he never proved to them that he was and thus has "failed to qualify".
Now, as to who has "standing". Any elected official at the state or federal level who took the oath of office in Article Six has standing, to demand that the Constitution be obeyed. This means that no judge can deny them the enforcement of their oath to "support the Constitution" if they have a question about whether or not any portion of that Constitution has not been adhered to. In this case, the Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 has clearly been IGNORED by the primary party instructed to act under it, Congress.
A push should be made upon those owning Congressional seats for a commitment to insuring that the twentieth Amendment, Section Three will be enforced in accordance with the Constitution and that there be NO question about the eligibility of the next President allowed to go legally unanswered by those who might have cause to challenge it. We the people must insist that all relevant information concerning the questions of Obama'a eligibility, including his college records, Arpaio's findings, and other information be presented to the light of day BEFORE this person is ever allowed to serve as President. He has usurped for four years already. This nation needs and deserves a LEGAL President, not an empty office of the President.
They might be able to steal an election but at least we can force them to admit that the Constitution is dead, and our having to abide by it on their terms is over and done with as well.
You think ANYBODY is going uphold the Constitution NOW? You are clueless. The Republic is dead. The Constitution is a dead letter. It is what Obama says it is now.
You think ANYBODY is going uphold the Constitution NOW? You are clueless. The Republic is dead. The Constitution is a dead letter. It is what Obama says it is now.
It either stands or does not stand. We need to FORCE them to admit it does or doesn’t. They don’t abide, We don’t have to abide either. They cannot have power over us without it being in force.
They have east of the Mississippi north of Cairo, and north of the Ohio, the Maryland panhandle, and the Delaware. Starve em out.
no, I think we’re exhausted and spent now. This battle is lost, and even if it were true, O and his cronies would find a way to shut it down.
Evil has won today.
Pray for yourself, pray for your family. Ask God to keep you safe until He comes back for His children.
Our fate as a nation is set. All we need now are the Babylonians to come in and take us away in chains...
Give it up already. There is no way anyone is going to turn 0bama out because of eligibility. He has been re-elected with all of the doubts surrounding his eligibility. Impeachment is a political process, not a legal one.
Any birther avenues are closed off. The only way he can be impeached is a high crime or misdemeanor. And that cannot happen now until his approval drops to 30% or less.
What!? You are absolutely NUTS! This bastard has no reason what-so-ever to hold back now. He has free reign to do whatever he wants and he WILL nominate THREE, thats right read it, 3, liberal supreme court justices.
They will rule by edict and you will either take it, or you will either grow a pair and come to the realization that the only way to hold onto ANY freedom is to move to a state were secession will be brought.
The constitution? Whats that? Its dead, and the scum of the earth are about to rule.
REMEMBER BENGHAZI
The crime of treason
These monsters regard the Constitution as so much toilet paper. Now what?
SnakeDoc
Fine. It's our job to force their admission to this. Admitting it doesn't exist is tantamount to admitting they think they own us. Let them say this for all to hear.
Let me help you out. The president who has shredded the Constitution will not be bound by it.
And, NO ONE has been able to bring a challenge in any court to zero’s elibility.
So, how do you plan to make this work??
Maybe you should start thinking secession.
bump
I agree. We have not had a real conservative since Reagan. The two last Republican nominees were chosen for us not by us. John McCain knew he was going to lose and I suspect if Romney does lose he also knew he was going to lose.
I will say this again. This is a complete duplication of Obama’s first election. McCain won the popular vote; but not the electoral vote. Exact same thing here. We have the House who will do nothing as before; but still not the Senate.
Now I ask you what are the chances of this being a duplication of his first electiont? One world government, cheating, fraud, lying. We don’t even know who Obama really is.
force them?
force them how?
What power do you or any of us have to force them to do anything?
Oh, stop it. If all the energy wasted on this issue had been spent usefully there might have been a Republican in the WH next year.
What are you talking about? The R’s spent no energy on this. They thwarted it at every turn.
It falls to the lesser magistrates to protect us from unconstitutional laws.that means senators and reps and governors, and if not them local elected officials. It’s their duty to do so.
What power do they have to force us to do anything if the Constitution is dead? Brute force? Certainly not legal force. If we as a nation have been taken over by those who plan to own us rather than serve us it is up to us to have them admit such right out in the open.
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