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1.47% : average popular vote difference in last three electoral inversions [vanity]
me | Oct. 27, 2012 | me

Posted on 10/27/2012 8:19:31 AM PDT by matt1234

1.47% is the average popular vote difference between presidential candidates in the last three electoral inversions (electoral vote winner is not popular vote winner.) There have been four electoral inversions in US history: 2000, 1888, 1876 and 1824. This calculation excludes 1824 because (1) four candidates won electoral votes, (2) the winner was decided by the House of Representatives because no candidate won a majority of the electoral votes, and (3) some states did not conduct popular votes. Summary:

2000: Gore: 48.4%. Bush: 47.9%. Diff.: 0.5%.

1888: Cleveland: 48.6%. Harrison: 47.8%. Diff.: 0.8%.

1876: Tilden: 51.0%. Hayes: 47.9%. Diff.: 3.1%.

Average diff.: 1.47%.


TOPICS: History; Politics; Reference
KEYWORDS: 2012election; electoralcollege; history; popularvote
Sources:

United States presidential election, 2000

United States presidential election, 1888

United States presidential election, 1876

United States presidential election, 1824

1 posted on 10/27/2012 8:19:44 AM PDT by matt1234
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To: matt1234

I guess the only way I could see this happen, with Romney winning the Pop Vote even rather handily is he blows out Obama in Texas and the South by epic margins...which is likely. A black democrat in Alabama, say, is more conservative personally and religious than your typical Chicago democrat. In fact, some southern Democrats, at heart, may actually be more personally conservative on a lot of issues than some northern moderate Republicans.

The point of that is I can see blacks staying home in Alabama, Miss, Georgia, South Carolina etc because they know Romney will win, and are disillusion with Obama.

Romney could then get REALLY CLOSE in PA, MINN, IOWA and still lose by a hair. Lose Wisconsin and Ohio by 1,000 votes and be a lot closer in California,, New York, Washington and New Jersey than McCain in 08...with Obama still getting the EVs.

With a little vote fraud in Ohio, and razor thin losses in a few states, you can make a fringe case for a Romney Pop Vote win...by a decent amount.... with an EC loss.

I don’t think that will happen, but it would be quite a strange time indeed if that happened.


2 posted on 10/27/2012 8:27:18 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Crimson Elephant

But then you have stories like this where a 108 year old decides to start voting for obama. The enthusiasm on both sides is insane.

http://www.islandpacket.com/2012/10/26/2258223/108-year-old-beaufort-woman-first.html


3 posted on 10/27/2012 9:17:10 AM PDT by lancium
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To: Crimson Elephant

That 1876 result really shouldn’t be included because of the particular circumstances of Reconstruction (as explained in the linked wikipedia article). A split of EC and popular vote probably only happens with a popular vote differential of less than 1.0% (as in 2000 and 1888).


4 posted on 10/27/2012 9:51:24 AM PDT by Marco Aurelio
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To: matt1234
I appreciate the heavy lifting but seriously, dude, the 19th century stuff is irrelevant.

Bush v. Gore is the limit of how far you can push a non-PV EV win in the modern era.

5 posted on 10/27/2012 11:35:09 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NE1, NC, FL, VA, OH, CO, IA, NH = 285EV)
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To: matt1234

1824 is not team a valid year to compare, because there were several big states that like NY that had no popular vote. Adams would have carried it.


6 posted on 10/27/2012 2:34:24 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: StAnDeliver
Bush v. Gore is the limit of how far you can push a non-PV EV win in the modern era.

Why?

7 posted on 10/28/2012 9:48:00 AM PDT by matt1234 (As Obama sowed in the Arab Spring, so he is reaping in the Arab Fall.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
1824 is not team a valid year to compare

Yes, I excluded 1824 as explained in the OP.

8 posted on 10/28/2012 9:49:36 AM PDT by matt1234 (As Obama sowed in the Arab Spring, so he is reaping in the Arab Fall.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks matt1234.


9 posted on 10/30/2012 3:39:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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