The goal of UN Agenda 21 is to abolish private property rights and impoverish and eventually starve anybody who is not a member of the global ruling-class so the global ruling-class can live in the Walden paradise that they deserve.
We have already decided to install an alternative electrical system.
Personally I like the monitoring aspect of “smart grid” technology - I’m able to see a real time use of electricity, and I don’t think I really care if someone sees my utility usage.
I do not want on the other hand, control or any restriction on my usage if I have the money to pay for it.
I've seen a ton of hysteria about the smart grid which simply isn't true. It's main benefits are actually seen within the utility companies own infrastructure so they can be aware of constraints, outages, etc at their own transformers and substations.
And the reality of that is that the installations of that level are not prevalent. 40% of all power produced is lost through grid inefficiencies. The "smart grid" when it becomes reality will be used to reduce that.
If you want to be worried about anything, be worried about the reality of dynamic pricing or paying the TRUE price of energy without price controls that have been in pla for more than 20 years. Just go look at the real time pricing within PJM or other system operators.
The primary reason for installing a smart grid is so you can read the meters without sending guys around in trucks to do the job every month. And as long as you’re gathering the data, why not gather it real time, rather than once a month?
Her in Vermont, our electric cooperative is putting in smart meters, but NOT wireless, because their hippie customers would be up in arms if they did that, fearful that all that wireless stuff would rot their brains. (And who knows, maybe it would?)
Not really much different from having a cash machine to replace a teller.
Primary purpose, to save money. Secondary purpose, to give you a detailed picture of your electric use.
I refuse to allow them to put a smart meter on my house.
I dare them to cut my service when my bills are paid on time, too.
Never EVER buy any electric appliance that has an “energy star” rating, either. They’re all able to “phone home” to the electric company.
Implementing a **highly-hackable** system of wireless utility metering, monitoring, selling private data, and control of life in citizens.
1984
Sigh. Not this s**t again.
Look, I design wireless meter reading equipment and "smart meters" for a living. I hold a patent that is the basis for my company's "drive-by" system. I know a few things about them, OK?
They do not "control life" in citizens' homes. If you agree to have your pool pump or water heater shut down at peak demand times, you can always go and push the button and turn it back on. Demand response SAVES PEOPLE MONEY by avoiding power drain at peak times, when utilities have to bring expensive auxilliary generation on-line.
I guess you'd prefer rolling blackouts. Keep up the attacks on metering, and you'll have them soon enough.
These meters have so little memory in their little computers, there isn't room for surveillance or whatever you think they are doing. And if any of that kind of crap showed up at a software design review at my company, it would immediately be taken out, because that isn't the kind of junk we do.
And "smart grid" is just a method to re-route large electric transmission lines to meet demand and to overcome damage. If there was a severe solar storm, or God forbid, EMP, a "smart grid" might allow us to shut down in time to avoid damage.
And as to "hackable", I'd like to see any hacker try. Oh, wait, they did, and 256-bit AES encryption isn't breakable in a reasonable length of time. That's why the NSA and other government agencies use it for encryption of top-secret data.
I get so tired of these threads that bash American meter manufacturers who create thousands of high-tech jobs. There is plenty of Agenda 21 and other communist crap in government. Take the witch hunt ELSEWHERE.
Related article: “Risks of the Smart Grid”
http://tamarawilhite.hubpages.com/hub/Risks-of-the-Smart-Grid
Has anyone else seen those trucks with the giant pods in them?
I noticed a lot of them parked in front of the local Democrat office.
I live in a community of 1,300 people. When the so called smart meters where installed this summer within a week nearly half the businesses in town had terrible fires and many homeownersw did also. It was all due to low voltage conditions to older appliances. The State Fire Marshall has been investigating for nearly four months. What do you think the chances are that it will be a white wash?
The bottom line is its supposed to cut down on resistance (The electrical kind).
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Post 128 of the Action Thread is a summary of the history of Agenda 21, “what they are doing”, “what to do about it” and a good bibliography for further reading.