Posted on 08/06/2012 10:50:09 AM PDT by scottjewell
I am aware that we can't post pieces from HuffPost but I did find it telling , and worthy of mention, that a major gay advocate (Michelangelo Signorile) from their Gay Voices is asking if the CFA gay protest failed, why, and what can be done now.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelangelo-signorile/chick-fil-a-were-the-prot_b_1746382.html?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices
What is interesting to me is that he attributes their failure to lack of organization, which is not quite true. The events were organized well in advance and invites posted on Facebook and Twitter - the same tactic used by Huckabee for his Aug 1 CFA Appreciation Day, which we all know was hugely, massively succesful.
Says Singorile:
"How did we allow it to happen? Because there was no coordinated effort on our side. The controversy was largely driven by blogs, social media and very loosely organized grass-roots activists, with no coordinated leadership. The city mayors and politicians calling for banning Chick-fil-A gave an opportunity for the right to reframe the story. The mayors backed off quickly after many on the left decided it wasn't a good idea. That's what we progressives do: We debate and often rethink things, unlike what those on the right did during the controversy over the Islamic center, as James Peron noted. But though the politicians backed off, the damage was done. And there was no leadership on our side aggressively pulling the story back from the right's re-framing."
Denial and rationalization will only go so far to wave away this massive fail.
As one poster commented on the piece:
"Accepting and liking are two different things..."
"I can accept a lot of things I don't like... The problem with this whole issue is that you want people to LIKE gay marriage... You can't make people LIKE it... The fact of the matter is until you make a law that says people have to LIKE gay marriage than there is nothing that this CEO did that is in any way illegal or a "hate crime." You might as well forget a "like" law happening for any issue...."
I posted a LOT of comments on that article, all still awaiting approval, of course...
Right! And this was from someone who is NOT anti-gay marriage! Even their own supporters are fed up.
Let me know if/when they publish - would love to see them.
In their wishful thinking, they see their position as mainstream. When reality rears its ugly head in the form of public voting, polls, or a CFA show of support; they are disoriented and cannot reconcile the results with their outcome predictions. Their bewilderment and confusion makes it that much funnier to me.
Will do.
Maybe he's changed over the years. I don't know.
Gays do not realize that they are nothing more than a pawn in Democrat victimization politics.
Note to gays, no one is going to take you seriously as long as people associate being gay with San Francisco freak show parades and your need to let everyone know what kind of sex you have.
Yes, Signorile was originally very doubtful about gay marriage. But then he figured out that it might be the perfect Trojan horse:
“Michelangelo Signorile admits that is his strategy as a homosexual activist.
His goal isn’t to get government-backed same-sex marriage so he can adhere to marriage’s moral code like straights do. (He can already do that without the government getting involved. And remember, just about every other homosexual is like Signorile—96 percent of them do not get married when giver the chance.)
His goal is to destroy marriage itself. He urges his fellow homosexual activists:
“to fight for same-sex marriage and its benefits and then, once granted, demand the right to marry, not as a way of adhering to society’s moral codes, but rather to debunk a myth and radically alter an archaic institution.”
He goes on to write, “The most subversive action lesbian and gay men can undertake… is to transform the notion of ‘family’ entirely.” [4]”
http://standingfast.tumblr.com/post/23940135233/but-none-of-those-involve-you-consenting-adults
“Gay Voices is asking if the CFA gay protest failed, why, and what can be done now?”
1- Yes, it failed.
2- Cuz nobody wanted to watch your public vulgarity.
3- You can go back into the closet and quit insisting that the rest of the world endorse and promote your lifestyle, as we are under no obligation to make our children available to predators.
What some of them don’t understand or won’t admit is that the goal is criminalization of Christianity, not “rights”
The silly oafs don’t realize they are bringing on their own demise. If Christianity falls, what will stop anyone from deciding that the LGBT community needs to be next. In their own stupidity they are destroying many of the freedoms that allow their own groups to exist.
They wanted their same sex marriage issue to be viewed as more important. And it really wasn’t, not even to their own allies.
Not even to their own community. I heard several friends relay to me that there were gay folks in line at chick-fil-a because they saw it as a 1st ammendment issue.
As Sherlock Holmes would say, this is a needle indicating an earthquake.
Note to totalitarian fags: Run.
Note to Constitutional homosexuals: When they run, trip them, load them into garbage cans, and roll them down a hill into a dump, where they belong.
Hard to believe this moment has actually arrived....
Math cannot be defied, no matter how much hate you have.
That is unnecessary on a site that has kids reading and posting on it. Maybe you are one of them.
His strategy is working apparently.
“Large differences by race and Hispanic origin exist in the share of births to unmarried women, with non-Hispanic white women and Asian or Pacific Islander women being much less likely to have a —> nonmarital birth.
In 2010, 73 percent of all births to black non-Hispanic women, 66 percent of births of American Indian or Alaskan native women, and 53 percent of births to Hispanic women occurred outside of marriage, compared with 29 percent for white non-Hispanic women and 17 percent for Asian or Pacific Islander women.”
In 2010, more than four in ten births (41 percent) were to unmarried women. http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/?q=node/196
,,,, what to do . . . .
K M A ,,,,,,
Exactly - and I think this is beginnig to slowly dawn on them.
No doubt he would like to see these numbers increase, if only to “transform an archaic institution”. To hell with the children, let’s just focus on freedom for adults...
Mike, you had the press and a not inconsiderable portion of the larger society on your side. And I guarantee that anybody who was exercised enough about this to want to go out and neck at a Chick-fil-A had access to when and where to go. There were just a lot more people who supported CFA, supported Dan Cathy, or at least the right to his opinion, wanted to give more than lip service to that, and incidentally thought a chicken sandwich, waffle fries and a peach shake sounded pretty darned tasty. And let’s be honest. The reason the left never really pulled the narrative back after Menino and Emanuel popped off is because they agree with what Menino and Emanuel originally wanted to do. Their only problem with what Tom and Rahm said is that Tom and Rahm were stupid enough to say it out loud.
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